Just went into limp mode at 525 miles

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Title says it all. The closet Dodge dealer is about 40 miles away. Is it safe to drive it to the dealer?
 

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my dealer was 22 miles away.. they just picked it up on a flatbed....just call the dealer and if he says it's ok to drive it over there then u just covered u're ass....
 
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What is the VIN? do you know if it had been flashed before? The dealer should have done this if you just bought it. If it does not require the flash you could have another issue. PM me with the last 6 of the vin and your last name. I will check it out and get back with you if you want.

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Sorry to hear that Mopar488. It seems likes it been an all to common problem. Best of luck.
 

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I had a problem with mine going into limp after 1500 miles and took it to the dealer. They checked everything out and determined the problem was a bad tank of gas.
 
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Please keep us posted on what the problem is. What month was your viper built?

It was built in April 08. It is on its 3rd tank on gas, 2 from the new fill. I will update when I hear something.
 

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I had this happen three times on my 08 within the first 900 miles . First the dealer flashed it, but that was no help as it went into limp mode while passing a truck with on coming traffic :mad:. The dealer changed out the Cam senor and that seems to have fixed the probelm, at least it has not had the issuse again.
 

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Without P-codes this post is worthless... there are several things that can cause a limp out intervention...

The Reflash is to fix occurance of P0300 / P0316 misfire codes...

There have been several bad cam sensors reported around the site they cause P0369's...

Both issues are fairly easily remedied. But no use guessing with out knowing the codes.
 
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So far Chrysler has sent 2 wreckers that were not able to pick up the Viper due to clearance. I have repeatedly told them the car is a Viper and they show up with the huge trucks for a John Deere tractor. I am waiting on a call to see what a 3rd one will do. From all the starting and shutting down, the check engine light is gone off, but it is still running crappy. With the check engine light off, what is the risk to try to drive it 40 miles to the dealer? This is BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Title says it all. The closet Dodge dealer is about 40 miles away. Is it safe to drive it to the dealer?

Mine has done the same thing. When it goes in limp more(at least for me) I pull over turn the car off
then restart the engine with the engine light staying on and the limp mode cleared. This should get you to the dealer anyway...:drive:
 

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So far Chrysler has sent 2 wreckers that were not able to pick up the Viper due to clearance. I have repeatedly told them the car is a Viper and they show up with the huge trucks for a John Deere tractor. I am waiting on a call to see what a 3rd one will do. From all the starting and shutting down, the check engine light is gone off, but it is still running crappy. With the check engine light off, what is the risk to try to drive it 40 miles to the dealer? This is BS!!!!!!!!!!!!

You might try disconnecting the battery for 2 minutes to reset the PCM. After doing so, see how she runs if ok go straight to the dealer. If it runs crappy right off the bat a tow is your only option
 

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So far Chrysler has sent 2 wreckers that were not able to pick up the Viper due to clearance. I have repeatedly told them the car is a Viper and they show up with the huge trucks for a John Deere tractor. I am waiting on a call to see what a 3rd one will do. From all the starting and shutting down, the check engine light is gone off, but it is still running crappy. With the check engine light off, what is the risk to try to drive it 40 miles to the dealer? This is BS!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's like adding insult to injury. I hope they get their act together and fix your car ASAP.
 
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The dealer that is doing the repair is coming in the morning. They claim they have carried Vipers before and are used to it. Hopefully so.
 

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Basically, as long as it is not showing a flashing MIL - which would be from a misfire code, no damage should occur if you can get into the dealer.

The flashing MIL is used to warn that Catalyst damage is occuring if you continue to drive.

Can you do the "Three Key" to extract the P-codes for us? That will help recommend waiting or driving...
 
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The 3 key cycles does NOT work on the Gen4 cars FYI.

Basically, as long as it is not showing a flashing MIL - which would be from a misfire code, no damage should occur if you can get into the dealer.

The flashing MIL is used to warn that Catalyst damage is occuring if you continue to drive.

Can you do the "Three Key" to extract the P-codes for us? That will help recommend waiting or driving...
 
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The codes are P0305 and P0316, # 5 cylinder is slightly misfiring and the # 5 spark plug is glazed. The tech is going to clear the codes and swap a few things around to see if the codes follow the swaps to determine by process of elimination. If he can't figure it out, he or I are going to call Mark Jorgensen.
 

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P0305 is a cyl #5 miss... P0316 is misfire in the first 1000 engine revolutions. The two codes go hand in hand. Just means that the miss is occuring quite frequently.

If moving the plug wire and coil as a group doesn't move the issue to another cylinder, it could be that the number 5 injector is sticking and not dropping fuel properly.

And as a guess... if the plug is glazed... it's most likely the injector sticking.
 
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P0305 is a cyl #5 miss... P0316 is misfire in the first 1000 engine revolutions. The two codes go hand in hand. Just means that the miss is occuring quite frequently.

If moving the plug wire and coil as a group doesn't move the issue to another cylinder, it could be that the number 5 injector is sticking and not dropping fuel properly.

And as a guess... if the plug is glazed... it's most likely the injector sticking.

This was his words verbatem as far as the codes go. Are you a Viper tech?
 
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Basically, as long as it is not showing a flashing MIL - which would be from a misfire code, no damage should occur if you can get into the dealer.

The flashing MIL is used to warn that Catalyst damage is occuring if you continue to drive.

Can you do the "Three Key" to extract the P-codes for us? That will help recommend waiting or driving...

For future reference, would you mind giving instructions for the 3 key method? In the old days I used a paper clip to connect terminals on a Supra Turbo and then counted blinks on the engine light to get codes.
 
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The key will start out in the "on" position, you need to turn to off, on, off, on in about 2.9 seconds. To fast and nothing to slow and nothing so it may take a few times to get it right. When it is done correctly there will be codes (some) listed in the odometer area. If there are no codes there will be a row of dashes and then say done.

Hope this helps.

For future reference, would you mind giving instructions for the 3 key method? In the old days I used a paper clip to connect terminals on a Supra Turbo and then counted blinks on the engine light to get codes.
 
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The key will start out in the "on" position, you need to turn to off, on, off, on in about 2.9 seconds. To fast and nothing to slow and nothing so it may take a few times to get it right. When it is done correctly there will be codes (some) listed in the odometer area. If there are no codes there will be a row of dashes and then say done.

Hope this helps.

It certainly helps and again I appreciate your help and attention and our discussion. As an update, I rec. a call lately from the tech and they ordered a fuel injector and it is due in this Friday. Hopefully it won't get back ordered. I will update whether or not this actually fixes the problem. As a matter of fact, I appreciate everybody's response. :2tu:
 
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UPDATE

I PU my car about 2 hours ago. It runs good, maybe better than before. Replaced # 5 injector. Did not need a flash. Changed oil and filter. Everything is normal again. The birds are chirpin', the sun is shining, my Viper is back in the garage.
 
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UPDATE

I PU my car about 2 hours ago. It runs good, maybe better than before. Replaced # 5 injector. Did not need a flash. Changed oil and filter. Everything is normal again. The birds are chirpin', the sun is shining, my Viper is back in the garage.

Good news and thank you for letting others know how it worked out.
Go forth and have loads of fun.
 
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