Gauging Interest on Gen 2 Rear Diffuser Blades

[KNG SNKE]

As most anyone who has thought about doing diffuser blades on the rear on a Gen 2 knows if you try to move SRT blades to a Gen 2 it requires cutting 3 slices in your bumper per blade and a total of 5 holes per blade have to be placed as well. I personally did not want to put that much damage on the rear bumper so with the help of a local fabricator we have changed the design around and and came up with a level blade that requires no slicing and 1 hole per diffuser.

The blades that we came up with use a very similar profile to the SRT blades but they are leveled out and utilize the rear existing hole mount for your bumper cover. In the front of the blade there is 1 hole that needs to be drilled. For those looking for extra stability a piece of 8 inch flat stock or longer can be put inside the bumper cover for rigidity but it won't be a requirement.

In the end the installation requirements will be significantly less, they will be made from aluminum, 1 hole per diffuser blade so if you plan on putting your car back to stock you can put a paint matched rivet there and call it good, and a good look for your car. I will have photos up later and hopefully have a set mocked up on my car by tonight (pending weather).

The photo attached is a picture of an SRT blade mocked up on my car. Besides the slicing and extra holes another thing I did not like that the front side of the diffusor actually extended past the wheel well, leaving a spike sticking out. It wouldn't hurt anything but I did not like it.

As usual questions, comments, interest is always appreciated.

(Keep in mind the diffusor blade in the photo is the original SRT blade we mocked up for the purpose of redesign, the new ones will be a similar shape but will be tailor to the Gen 2)

 

[dave6666]

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It's diffuser, and those look way to far up under the car to be effective. Need a side shot too as I'm thinking they may even look "wrong" that far under.

 

[dave6666]

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Diffuser (automotive) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[KNG SNKE]

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It's diffuser, and those look way to far up under the car to be effective. Need a side shot too as I'm thinking they may even look "wrong" that far under.

They are for aesthetics only. The only way to have a functional diffuser is to extend it even or past the bumper and the blades will not do it alone, it would require a full flat panel to mount them. They can easily be made longer to go further up the bumper though that is not my intention because if I choose to put it back to stock then the bolts would be pretty visible. With them sitting in that position the blades would be very noticeable from behind the car and easily go back to stock with minimal damage. I don't quite understand the "might even look wrong" statement. As stated, they are diffuser blades, not a diffuser. They will yield no performance improvement but might clean up the rear bumper if anything. As far as wrong, not likely, there are many members here that have the SRT blades actually installed in their vehicles and the difference in mounting distance from theirs to mine is + 1 inch. These first 2 sets are a preliminary run for me and will be mocked up on my car. If I can extend them 1 inch then I definitely will but the stock bumper starts radius up past where these blades would mount.

I also did not want to put a full diffuser on the back, its not my taste. I think it will take away from the stripes on the car. Honestly one of the best full diffusers I have seen on the car was the one on eBay for 500 dollars or so. I could handle putting that one on but it is too much black covering the yellow and I would not want to cover up that much horse power, Go Yellow! Personally I love the look of just the blades as seen on Treesnakes car (thanks for the photos and inspiration) and I even saw a set installed on Robzillas car.

 

[dave6666]

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Okie dokie more better pics pleeeeze!

 

[JohnnyViper]

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wow no slack for misspelled words, dont worry King Snk I do it all the time and always get called out for it

 

[KNG SNKE]

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Well I "googled" the word and it actually came up spelled that way. I saw that it showed as being misspelled here however I let it roll.

I am planning on providing pictures today of a full set of 4 mocked up on my car without the front holes drilled. They will be plain aluminum colored till I can get them powder coated. The weather is fairly bad here though so the storms are going to depend when and if I pull it out of the garage to mock them up.

 

[dave6666]

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Mis-spelling a part on a car, at a car forum, make you look dumb. Getting mad when you're corrected acknowledges guilt. The dumb part.

KNG SNAKE --->>> said nothing

JohnnyViper --->>> makes point of it

Yeah...

 

[dave6666]

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Based on my experience building my diffuser they will look HORRIBLE in silver. I'll post some pics up in a bit. I thought I had wasted my time and then they were black...

 

[JohnnyViper]

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i do like the way it looks, if you are planing on manufacturing them they would need to be at a good price point as they are just for looks, their is a nice aftermarket bolt on diffuser that recently came on the market but its overpriced IMO and wonder if it really worked well because it is small and set a bit back

 

[KNG SNKE]

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Based on my experience building my diffuser they will look HORRIBLE in silver. I'll post some pics up in a bit. I thought I had wasted my time and then they were black...

Absolutely, they will look horrible in silver, especially on my car. The pictures will only be for a mock up to show what they will look like in the end. I can even hit them with a Satin finish rattle can if it would make a difference. This is just a last ditch project before I leave the local area and leave my car stored.

 

[JohnnyViper]

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i dont know dave you seem to make a point at correcting every misspelled word everyone makes, last time I check this is a informal forum and not a NY Times novel, seems silly to me you are always correcting people, kind of make you look snobbish IMO

 

[KNG SNKE]

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i dont know dave you seem to make a point at correcting every misspelled word everyone makes, last time I check this is a informal forum and not a NY Times novel, seems silly to me you are always correcting people, kind of make you look snobbish IMO

For the sake of not getting into a tangent of misspelled words then Yellow vs Red lets keep on topic . Threads go downhill very fast.

 

[JohnnyViper]

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I agree, I will behave and stay on topic Do you plan on selling them to viper owners once you are done with the design stage?

 

[JohnnyViper]

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You can pass on that question as it may violate thread rules

 

[dave6666]

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Yes I am a snob. Thank you I will were that spell check hat with pride

Hear are the pics of mine pre-powdercoat. I reely thought I had waisted my time. Looked like a lawn chare got stuck under their.

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[2easy]

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i dont know dave you seem to make a point at correcting every misspelled word everyone makes, last time I check this is a informal forum and not a NY Times novel, seems silly to me you are always correcting people, kind of make you look snobbish IMO

+1 Agree 100% KNG look closer at the 07:41 post. When you point a someone be careful because 3 digits are pointing back at you. KNG like your idea. Looks great IMO.

 

[KNG SNKE]

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Lol yes looks horrible in that color. Though I really like your front splitter and side splitters I am looking to do a setup with a smaller footprint for the rear. Even where mine sit they drop low enough to see them easily and just add a bit of extra flare to the back. If Treesnake gives me permission to post a photo of his or 2 then I can give a better idea of the styling. His car was my basis on making these, that thing is just mean looking all around.

 

[dave6666]

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In regards to style pointes versus functunallity, many cars theese days have vareous levels of deffusers installed rangeing from bearlee a bumper nub to arrowdinamicly tested. I have no problem with the stile point vershion but my bigger one works well juging by my clean bumper.

 

[KNG SNKE]

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In regards to style pointes versus functunallity, many cars theese days have vareous levels of deffusers installed rangeing from bearlee a bumper nub to arrowdinamicly tested. I have no problem with the stile point vershion but my bigger one works well juging by my clean bumper.

Lol .

I don't get bother by being corrected on spelling nor do I really point it out in others. Especially from Dave. Dave has helped me many times by providing great pictures via email for my various projects to include but not limited to the hood pad painting and big brakes. He has always been willing to help and I am always open for constructive criticism. Makes me a better person and potentially improves the product. I have my goals for the product and that is a killer look for the back of my car at a fraction of the cost to "make" the srt blades work. I don't race, I only toy around on the race track so functionality for me is not important.

 

[dave6666]

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Crappy spelling is bad eye candy and takes longer to read. Just had to prove a point as I'm really not a snob, just prefer to spell the name of car parts correctly. A product of being raised by a mother who was an English major, and then myself being a car enthusiast that takes pride in all his actions including verbal ones.

Sorry guys

I do want to see some pics of the car on the ground with them so get your ass outside and get to work

 

[JohnnyViper]

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well i honestly dont think you are a snob dave, I just get jealous when there is a better speller in the house , I like the diffuser you have, did you make it or buy it? I also like the understated look of Kings setup, I wonder if it will reduce any of the dirt that gets kicked up, I can clean my viper and take it for a five minute spin and have the back dirty again

 

[dave6666]

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Mine was hand made by me one of one. Larger in size for the initial concept of covering my unused rear exhaust hole. Secondly, it does greatly reduce dirt on the rear. But not eliminate it.

I've seen the pics of SRT blades applied to the rear of a Gen 2 and I think they look great. If **** curb appeal is what you are looking for then they seem like a simple way to accomplish that. Just curious to see how **** his are going to be

 

[2easy]

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Crappy spelling is bad eye candy and takes longer to read. Just had to prove a point as I'm really not a snob, just prefer to spell the name of car parts correctly. A product of being raised by a mother who was an English major, and then myself being a car enthusiast that takes pride in all his actions including verbal ones.

Sorry guys

I do want to see some pics of the car on the ground with them so get your ass outside and get to work

Good on you Dave!

 

[PDCjonny]

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Dave-
Any consideration to rounding off those knife sharp edges like on an ACR?

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[Dom426h]

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I have no interest in a non-functional diffuser blade. At some point i would like to colaborate with Dave on his design but extend it past the bumper a tad more to make it alittle more functional. For now my custom splitter/diffuser aero kit is on the backburner though untill i decide on rear vs side exhaust. All of this is a year or two down the road for me though.



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I usualy could care less about spelling. However, when it comes to car parts its good to get it right so that the item can help people in the future by being searchable. Say im searching the VCA forums for "intake manifold" and there happens to be a very informative thread where someone is calling it an "intake manafold" then i would miss out on that info. (however, i am personally smart enough to purposely search for common misspellings to find as much info as possible.) If I was a moderator the title of this thread would have been changed by now.

 

[dave6666]

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Here is the pchop mockup I did when deciding the blade profile. Base pic, angled like the SRT and then sq. at the back. I chose the sq. as I thought the look was more aggressive. But less ****. I make up for that with my forum charm

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[KNG SNKE]

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Alright pictures as requested. Just picked up the blades and did a quick mount on my car. Keep in mind the ends of the blades are NOT bolted to my car yet and will sit flush. Because the rear bumper is made from urethane they tend to sag just like the front fascia. These fins will pull the bumper flush and using the 8 inch piece of flat stock aluminum inside the bumper will ensure a night snug finish.

Overall I think they look great. They stand out just enough to make you look twice. They could be extended 1 inch but that puts them pretty close to the radius of the end of the bumper. The are sturdier then the SRT ones due to thicker aluminum.

(Before anyone comments on the color they will not be installed on my car in bare aluminum, they will either be powder coated black or painted satin black, pictures are for mock up only)

Quick Recap
4 holes required for 4 blades, 6 holes for 6 blades (6 blades are possible)(SRT blades require 12 slots and 20 holes)
Stronger then SRT blades
Cheaper to produce then SRT blades with improved quality
Made to fit the Gen 2

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[JohnnyViper]

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i really like them, I would want six verses four

 

[JohnnyViper]

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and I have to say they look good unpainted