ACR 45k

[SquadX]

Hi all,
Just wanted to get some opinions before I purchase. A dealer has a 01 yellow acr going ofr 45k. It has a clean title, but had some right rear damage which was fixed per the seller with original parts. Car has not moved in some time. I wonder if 45k is to high or it is to low. Also, the car only has 5100 miles on it. Someone I talked to said 45k was low for this car.
I dont want to make the long trip to see the car, pay for an inspection (which the dealer said would be fine) to have problems found.

VIN 1B3ER69E01V702970

Is any one near Blacks burg VA, and willing to take a look at this car for me.

 

[V10SpeedLuvr]

$45k for a clean title, low mileage yellow ACR is extremely low. I'd do some further investigating and see how much damage was done in the accident and definitely get it checked out before buying!

 

[SquadX]

Also, the carfax does show the accident.

Does any one know of any cert. dodge tech in/near blacksburg virginia?

 

[TAXIMAN1]

Also, the carfax does show the accident.

Does any one know of any cert. dodge tech in/near blacksburg virginia?

FYI, that will permenantly devalue this car. Check marked on it forever.. Carfax reports are changing the used car maket. This is proof..

It could be a bargain.. But when you go to re-sell, you'll run into the same problem. That negative carfax report will scare some/most away. I would pay more, for the "right" car, But thats me.. If you plan to keep this forver. Go for it, assuming the inspection checks out.

 

[SquadX]

Thats why I am having second thoughts on the car. Just seems like a good deal if it checks out but that damn carfax report (which is a good thing). Not necessary looking to purchase then resale in the future but who knows.
Let me ask this, if the car does check out good by a cert. viper tech, does 45k seem like a fair price considering it has the carfax history?

Once again if any one is near blacksburg who can check the car out (test drive) before I waste money on the inspection, let me know. Also any good viper techs near there?

 

[Lee00blacksilverGTS]

Call Bernie Katz at Route Six Motorsports. He probably knows the car and would have bought it for that price if he thought it was a good car. Here's his link. And for a fee he would probably go look at it for you.
http://route6motorsports.com/

But I'm sure he would not have bought it as it has a bad carfax, Bernie only deals with PERFECT low mileage Vipers. And you should take a hint from that. Yes it's a good low price BECAUSE of the bad carfax and you will wind up selling it at an even lower price some day due to the same carfax. While you are at Bernie's site take a look at some of the Vipers he has, those are the kind of Vipers you should be looking at.

 

[SquadX]

Rt. 6 motorsports was actually my next option. Just wanted to see what you guys thought. Thanks for all the advice. Also Lee, your black and silver GTS is my ideal Viper, just hard to find them. I have a red GTS, and I was thinking about going to a srt but the look of the GTS is hard to beat. Pretty much, I am looking for a viper to mod/track, thats why I was so interested in this one.

 

[PAvenomRT/10]

Squad X,
On the other hand, if the repair checks out satisfactorily and you have no immediate plans to sell the car but plan on keeping it indefinitely, why not use the car fax history to try and negotiate a lower price. After all, if the car is in excellent condition after the repair with such low mileage, you would have a very nice ACR at a relatively low price. Should you decide to sell, the price differential would likely be no different than if you paid more for a perfect car and then sold, IMHO.
PAvenom RT/10

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

What year is it ?

 

[Andrew/USPWR]

Are you sure it's a true ACR?

Otherwise, sounds great.

 

[ACELLR8]

It is a true ACR. I was looking at this car for a friend of mine who wants a solid yellow ACR (2002). Never did drive down and see it, since he only wanted a 2002. I think the price is good considering there are only 14 solid yellow ACRs in 01 and 7 solid yellow ACRs in 02. If the car is straight, clean and the repairs are done properly I don't see the car depreciating to much considering you drove it for a few years and took a small hit on it. The car seems nice to me from the several pics he has on cars.com . I would negotiate a little off since he has had it for a while. Just my .02 Cents.

 

[SquadX]

Car is an 2001. Dealer fixed car himself and I know he no viper tech. I talked to bernie and he said the car is only worth mid 20k with the carfax history on it and should probably steer away from it. Bernie has a nice red 00 for low 50s but 00 are two neg. strikes for me (except the lovely gray and white color combo) because of the cast pistons and no abs. I plan to on FI in the future and wanted a forged internal car or one with abs brakes. After speaking with Bernie, the abs brakes dont seem as important as one without them as long as I do a big brake kit. This ACR just caught my eye because its an acr for a good price and I have no intent of selling anytime soon or at all. And now that I should have more free time on my hand, I would like to visit the track a couple times pre year and the ACR options are nice for that.

The dealer has no intent of bulging on the price and even said "I priced it to low".

 

[BJ MOTORS]

SquadX here is where I was steering you on this particular car. If you are looking to build a track car then the ABS (my opinion) is a non issue, yes it's great for flat spotting tires. Several years I raced and lot's of guys tried to ad ABS to their cars and they always had problems or gremlins, if you are planning on buying the car and using it for street and mainly street you will be cursed with the Carfax as it will not ever go away. People will see minor rear end collision, unless you have proper documentation with photos of the damage I would recommend staying away from the car. If you are looking for a track car then the car is a great car,but not for 45K, when you can buy another year in the 40's and an ACR and put Stoptech's, bolt on's boost the hp moderate and have fun with the car, you stated you were looking for 800 hp than you should look at a 99 or earlier or take a 00 that you buy right and pull the block, sleeve it, bore it, stroke it to a 522ci and put a blower on it, but if a track car only buy one for 25's to 30's with a salvage title. I see the salavage cars all the time and even though this the title on this particular car is not branded it is branded by carfax and it does diminish the value huge.

 

[ACRSNK]

Spend a little more and get a clean car with no accident history. One of the members on this forum just purchased a 99 ACR (forged pistons)with only 2,000 miles for about the same price. While not everyone is going to get as good a deal, I would rather spend a little more and not deal with the past accident history/Carfax issues.

 

[TAXIMAN1]

SquadX here is where I was steering you on this particular car. If you are looking to build a track car then the ABS (my opinion) is a non issue, yes it's great for flat spotting tires. Several years I raced and lot's of guys tried to ad ABS to their cars and they always had problems or gremlins, if you are planning on buying the car and using it for street and mainly street you will be cursed with the Carfax as it will not ever go away. People will see minor rear end collision, unless you have proper documentation with photos of the damage I would recommend staying away from the car. If you are looking for a track car then the car is a great car,but not for 45K, when you can buy another year in the 40's and an ACR and put Stoptech's, bolt on's boost the hp moderate and have fun with the car, you stated you were looking for 800 hp than you should look at a 99 or earlier or take a 00 that you buy right and pull the block, sleeve it, bore it, stroke it to a 522ci and put a blower on it, but if a track car only buy one for 25's to 30's with a salvage title. I see the salavage cars all the time and even though this the title on this particular car is not branded it is branded by carfax and it does diminish the value huge.

Well said... I am in the car business as well... I can tell you that these carfax reports are huge now. Are they 100% reliable? Absolutely not... If you have a clean carfax report, does it mean the car hasnt been hit? Absolutely not..

However, if you fail to run one, and there IS something there. Expect a 20% value change, on some cars... Maybe not so much on the vipers, but its still there..

I just saw a 2005 Mercedes E55 with 3,000 miles on it, sell for $47,000. Why? Because it had a reported accident on carfax. Work was done to perfection, and you could not tell this car from new. But, it didnt matter. This would (all other things being equal) be a $55,000 car, even at the wholesale level..

You can find a "no issues" 2001 ACR, for in the mid-$50's. And if you want to stay in the $40's. Go with an earlier non-abs car.. But to save a few grand. Is it worth it? Ultimately, your not saving anything.. When you go to sell it, it will be TOUGH to unload.. Why do you think its been for sale, for so long??