Anyone have a paxton blower go out on them?
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Yellow Fever
Enthusiast
Does the Novi use self containded oil like the ATI Blowers or does it use the Motor Oil ?
Gerald
Enthusiast
Could just be the bearings in the pulley or bearings in the pulley tensioner. Have you cut your belt to see where it's coming from? If your lucky it's just a pulley bearing. Hopefully it's not the bearings inside of the blower.
You'll have to most likely cut the belt and turn the pulleys to determine which one(s) are making the noise. If it's the internals of the blower, you'll have to contact Paxton and see what they'll charge for a rebuild...
Gerald
You'll have to most likely cut the belt and turn the pulleys to determine which one(s) are making the noise. If it's the internals of the blower, you'll have to contact Paxton and see what they'll charge for a rebuild...
Gerald
Gerald
Enthusiast
The last thing you want to do is DRIVE your car making that noise. If it's indeed your blower and it locks up and scatters you do NOT WANT parts of the blower to get sucked into your engine.. Cut that belt and fix it.....QUICK..
1TONY1
Enthusiast
Maybe removing the belt instead of cutting it would be a good idea 
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
I had a paxton go... manufacture date was 2000 or 2001. They had a bad batch... blew a seal.
2+ years of problem free paxton right now...
JD
2+ years of problem free paxton right now...
JD
Thanks guys. Your making me feel much better now. Since this car was bought from someone else who did all the work, and since I don't know jack about how to work on this car-I'm learning though. How does one remove the belt. I'm at work, but it looks as if I would have to remove the blower itself???
I drove it down the street yesterday to see if I was hearing things, but no it is coming from the blower or pully area. It does sound like bearings though because it is a screetch that is on top of the blower whine. When I rev it up to 2000 rpm and let off-this where I hear it the most-when I let off the gas. Almost like a screetch.
The blower is fed via oil from car.
I drove it down the street yesterday to see if I was hearing things, but no it is coming from the blower or pully area. It does sound like bearings though because it is a screetch that is on top of the blower whine. When I rev it up to 2000 rpm and let off-this where I hear it the most-when I let off the gas. Almost like a screetch.
The blower is fed via oil from car.
1TONY1
Enthusiast
There should be a belt tensioner.....take tension/pressure off of it and the belt should come off. Do you have a blower belt AND the factory belt ? Run it without the blower belt and see if it makes the noise. Try to move the blower pulley up/down side to side and in and out to see if there is any give in the bearings. Spin/turn by hand....does it turn freely ? If it does not turn freely or there is pulley movement the blower needs to go back for a rebuild before you do damage to the impellers or housing. It would be a good time for a new belt either way....wire tie the old one and throw it under the seat for a spare.
Thanks 1Tony1. Yes the blower belt is spearate from the serpentine belt. At least it looks like it is, but car is not on front of me. I did see where the tensioner is. I will do what you suggest. If it is the pully on the blower can this be replaced? Or will the blower have to be removed and rebuilt?
Thanks again
Thanks again
Gerald
Enthusiast
oops, sorry, remove belt....
1TONY1
Enthusiast
It will not be the pulley. It will be a blower bearing....there will be bearings internally and there "may" be a front bearing that supports the shaft that the pulley fits on. Possibly, if it is the front bearing...you could replace it in the field....but probably not. Internal and it will have to go back.
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
Blower bearing was what went on mine. I know of two others that went around the same time as well...
Not a mjor problem... but paxton doesn't always wanrantee these. those $#!@$#!ers...
JD
Not a mjor problem... but paxton doesn't always wanrantee these. those $#!@$#!ers...
JD
CHAD
Enthusiast
I think Gerald might have had it right the first time. That is a lot of work to remove the belt vs cut it off. Either way it is coming off and since the belt is $18 and you are going to replace it anyway, I would cut it off.
Chad
Chad
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
When mine when out, I just cut it. It wasn't a problem. Removing the head unit may or may not be a big problem... depends on how handy you are w/ the tools. But it won't hurt it to leave it on w/o the belt (though airflow is affected a little).
JD
JD
Yellow Fever
Enthusiast
I agree with G on this one..It's probably your tensioner making the noise, I had the exact same problem on my Supercharged C5.
Thankfully it was a cheap fix
Wow! Lots of good stuff. I will call paxton and order a new belt, or is there a better place to get one? Also is there such a thing as a better belt? In regards to the tensioner, are you referring to the tensioner for the blower that paxton provides? If so how does one tell if this bad? And if it turns out to be this, can one just buy this and install, or does the blower have to be shipped out. On paxton's site, it looks as if it is just bolted on?
Sorry for all the stupid ?'s
And thanks again all. I'll be a blower expert in no time-yeah right!
Sorry for all the stupid ?'s
And thanks again all. I'll be a blower expert in no time-yeah right!
txlen
Enthusiast
first of all...remove the tensioner...spin the pulley and listen real good in a pretty quiet room or such..if you hear a noise or feel a roughness as it spins the bearing in the tensioner is bad...next check the blower...spin it and listen and feel if it feels rough..as for the belt..you can always take your old one down to a good auto parts store and they can measure it for you instead of waitng on getting one from paxton...if the tensioner bearing is quiet and the belt is in good shape it's time to pull the blower and ship it to paxton....also....if i was you i'd start the car without the blower belt on and see if the noise is gone that way you know it's not anything else on the motor making the noise...Len
Dr Roof
Enthusiast
Napa should have the belt no need to order from Paxton
I'm home now. I cut the belt and started car. Car ran fine, noise is gone. Spun tensioner, tensioer is fine. Spun blower by hand, I'm no expert but it does not move freely at all. Makes nice scraping noises and grabs. I would think that when you spin this that it should be quiet and not bind. Am I right? In other words I think the blower is shot and needs a rebuild. Bummer! Paxton will not touch it. Why you ask because this is the first car that paxton ever installed a kit on. This car was shipped to paxton 2 years ago. Paxton spent 1 year using this car as the model for their kit. It looks like no other kit out there.
Oh well. I'm thinking of pulling it myself and sending it to this co. http://www.paradisewheelsinc.com/
Any comments?
Thanks
P.S. Is it hard to pull these things off? I have lots of tools and I'm a pretty good mechanic. It does not seem to hard. I will then ship car to valaya racing http://www.valayaracing.com/ and have ted install it.
Oh well. I'm thinking of pulling it myself and sending it to this co. http://www.paradisewheelsinc.com/
Any comments?
Thanks
P.S. Is it hard to pull these things off? I have lots of tools and I'm a pretty good mechanic. It does not seem to hard. I will then ship car to valaya racing http://www.valayaracing.com/ and have ted install it.
1TONY1
Enthusiast
Hopefully the impeller has not gotten into the housing, you can see most of this through the outlet of blower. If you can pull it, then you can reinstall it....might as well learn how this time. It's not going to be that big of a deal.
p.s. I wish someone would tell me the reason behind cutting the belt as opposed to loosening the tensioner. Does the tensioner not have to be loosened to reinstall a belt ?
Nevermind, I know the answer.
That = a wasted belt.
p.s. I wish someone would tell me the reason behind cutting the belt as opposed to loosening the tensioner. Does the tensioner not have to be loosened to reinstall a belt ?
Nevermind, I know the answer.
That = a wasted belt.
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
with some of these set-ups (old ones), it was a PITA to get to the tensioner! Current set-ups are better, though.
it isn't hard to pull the head unit... just mark ALL the bolts... otherwise you'll have extras. Also, don't forget that the blower is connected to the oil pan, so you'll need to keep an eye on that gravity-fed return line.
Good luck!
JD
it isn't hard to pull the head unit... just mark ALL the bolts... otherwise you'll have extras. Also, don't forget that the blower is connected to the oil pan, so you'll need to keep an eye on that gravity-fed return line.
Good luck!
JD
txlen
Enthusiast
yea..if you run the car after the blower is off make sure you plug the oil feed line and the return into the oil pan.....
Jcoopacr2000
Enthusiast
Pilot light still lit?
txlen
Enthusiast
pilot lite????.....huh?????
Don't expect paxton to help you out. They take your money and they run. Only thing that blows more air out of Paxton's supercharger are the sales people and the service manager. They are full of it!
to answer your question about pulling it off, it's not too hard if you know what you are doing and have some air tools. I can have my blower off in about 1 hour.
Thanks for all the help everyone. It does not seem like to much of a hassle to take off. Damn thing looks heavy as hell though. It would be much easier (I guess) if i could take the hood off. But no one here to help with that. I don't see any damage at all to the blower itself. The car ran fine before. I think the bearings are shot and that's it. I know that this car ran for over 10,000 miles with the blower on it. Not sure how long they are supposed to last, but with all the heat this thing generates and with all the heat the viper motor in itself generates, I can see why it would go. The site that rebuilds them has a system they sell that cools the oil going to the blower. Anyone have one of these? For 200 bucks, it seems like a good idea?? And since it's cooling the oil going to the blower that menas it's helping in cooling all the oil.
