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DEVILDOG
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LotsaHP,
Thanks for the backup!
Thanks for the backup!
NEED HELP WITH PICS PLEASE??? VIPAIR PLASTIC PROTOTYPE INSTALLED!
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DEVILDOG
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Does the SRT draw air from the front fascia in addition to the hood scoop for the motor? I'm wondering if that is so because if the SRT is drawing air from the fascia then DC must have determined that the fascia air pressures do indeed provide a good flow of outside cooler air for the motor which would support the VIPAIR functionality. Can someone with an SRT verify that the motor is being fed from the fascia and if so want percentage of air would you estimate versus the air scoop? Any aero experts have any observations on this? Thanks for any input.
Vipermed 97.01
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Does the SRT draw air from the front fascia in addition to the hood scoop for the motor? I'm wondering if that is so because if the SRT is drawing air from the fascia then DC must have determined that the fascia air pressures do indeed provide a good flow of outside cooler air for the motor which would support the VIPAIR functionality. Can someone with an SRT verify that the motor is being fed from the fascia and if so want percentage of air would you estimate versus the air scoop? Any aero experts have any observations on this? Thanks for any input
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BINGO......Devildog...you hit the nail on the head.srt and comp coupe are drawing there air from the facia along w/pasive airflow through the scoop.you will also notice that most of the lemans vipers seal off there NACA duct to allow there flow through the facia only.If you look at the true ram air cars they are drawing there air through the facia.Old school on carburated cars were functionally better with "air scoops"drawing directly to the carburator, but this does not hold true w/fuel injected cars.By the way great pics and happy belated bday.And as far as pic9 goes,i now know what a devil dog looks like
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DEVILDOG
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Scott,
I can't believe I didn't think of that in regard to the GTSRs having the NACA duct removed and drawing all the motor air from the fascia as much as I've watched them race. I'm convinced of the benefit. Have you done a production run yet? Thanks for the B'day wishes...now besides the VCA I also belong to the AARP!
I can't believe I didn't think of that in regard to the GTSRs having the NACA duct removed and drawing all the motor air from the fascia as much as I've watched them race. I'm convinced of the benefit. Have you done a production run yet? Thanks for the B'day wishes...now besides the VCA I also belong to the AARP!
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SUN RA KAT
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What's the expected price and date of availability on the plastic VIPAIR?
I do believe I want one.
I do believe I want one.
snowmann
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Sorry if this was already addressed, but what is the performance gain? Any drawbacks? I wonder why Dodge did not do this originally?
Vipermed 97.01
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They have been designed to fit all except yellow......sorry
will advise on availability and pricing soon........yes even yellow
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DEVILDOG
VCA Member North TX
Steve and Scott, when is the production version of the plastic VIPAIR going to be available? Do you have any pics of the final version with the different color logos that you can post?
Vipermed 97.01
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They should be available next week,will post pics
Vipermed 97.01
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Yes you can
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DEVILDOG
VCA Member North TX
BUMP for RussM. Refer to the 11th post on the thread and read the remarks above the first PIC detailing the routing of air being channeled from the front fascia. I was just trying to get some information out to other Viper owners about a new product that I believe is a benefit. I've never met Steve or Scott and I have no financial interest in the VIPAIR. Maybe I should have just not wasted my time. If you or others don't think there is any benefit then don't get one. Any questions?
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DEVILDOG
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BUMP for kgrif!
kgrif
Viper Owner
OK I am new to the forum after 6 years on the corvette forum.....So I'll ask,,,,,what's a BUMP?
vipah
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Still no objective performance tests I see. How come we can't seem to get some numbers from third parties?
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DEVILDOG
VCA Member North TX
It's when you BUMP a thread to the top of page one.
Russ M
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Simple answer really, thats because if they post results the sales would go to 0 units. Might as well buy muffler bearings.
Russ, I am a skeptic as well. Saturday I watched an A vs B test gain 7 RWHP. The test was done with the hood closed and a large fan and 2 a/c units directing cool (not cold) air toward the front of the car. I would not call it totally controlled but it did show an improvement. One of outr other members said he did the same test at the same dyno a while back and gained 10 RWHP. So even though I am a skeptic I am reasonably convinced that it does provide some improvement.
Vipermed 97.01
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Russ.When you do some true testing with our products maybe your responces will be more credible.You started a bias thread here a while back claiming the non benefits of this product without any testing of it whatsoever.You also say that .What you seem to miss is that we are not claiming any breakthrough tecknology here.We are just providing an air source that has been used and PROVEN for years on the track with VIPERS.You ask one person here that is involved with SCCA,Viperdays or ALMS racing to say that they are not aware of the gains from such a product.As i said before next time your watching any kind of Viper racing ask yourself why the NACA duct is sealed off on most of them.Trust me they are not trying to suffocate there car.they are utilizing the facia.And as far as proof you can go on our site at www.vipersbyelite.com and you will see a dyno sheet that an unsolicited customer has provided for us.This customer will probably chime in at the fact that the the test he did was well done as to see the gains or not with respect to ambiant conditions and all other being replicated during each pull to confirm.In my honest opinion this Mod.is as benificial if not more than smooth tubes/filters.Anyone that would like to speak with myself or Steve about this products functionability please feel free to call. Russ i will let you know when we are done with all of the R&D on our prototype "muffler bearings"
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DEVILDOG
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There ya go Russ...now go buy some muffler bearings if you have any money left after paying your share of the $38B CA fruits and nuts budget deficit!
To me you prove that CA does not have any common sense....the benefits of the VIPAIR are a no brainer!BADVENOM
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the benefits of the VIPAIR are a no brainer!
Now WHERE have I heard that before! LOL
Now WHERE have I heard that before! LOL
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LOL!
jimandela
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I have it on mine and it looks great and fit perfect!
even though it is still for sale
even though it is still for sale
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DEVILDOG
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BUMP for J DAWG and TOOOFST.
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DEVILDOG
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Well after 2 years running with the first VIPAIR, I thought I should update everyone (especially vipah & Russ M) 
on my experience to date. I have no doubt that HP & TQ are gained as speed is increased due to the injection of outside cool air through the front fascia versus the induction of hot underhood heated air. Also, my car never exceeds 190 degrees operating temp. even in hot as heck Texas. Hope everyone involved in this debate is doing well and keeping COOL!!!
on my experience to date. I have no doubt that HP & TQ are gained as speed is increased due to the injection of outside cool air through the front fascia versus the induction of hot underhood heated air. Also, my car never exceeds 190 degrees operating temp. even in hot as heck Texas. Hope everyone involved in this debate is doing well and keeping COOL!!! Gerald Levin
Viper Owner
Devildog, Are you saying if you removed the Vipair unit, your operating temp would increase and if so, by how much would you estimate? Has anyone else experienced a reduced operating temperature by installing a Vipair?
Russ M
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Umm,
Ok so now the vipair cools your engine opperating temp as well?
Just curious if you know that the vipair allows cool air wich would normaly be trapped and forced through the radiator out of its enclosure.
Didnt you say like 2 years ago that you were going to do some actual testing? Or is SOTP the most accurate method?
Ok so now the vipair cools your engine opperating temp as well?
Just curious if you know that the vipair allows cool air wich would normaly be trapped and forced through the radiator out of its enclosure.
Didnt you say like 2 years ago that you were going to do some actual testing? Or is SOTP the most accurate method?
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