New Car & Driver with Supercar Challenge just came

Discussion in 'RT/10 and GTS Discussions' started by FE 065, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. SnakeBitten

    SnakeBitten Enthusiast

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    finally beat the Vette :2tu: SRT10 looks wicked in this pic...It sounds like DC should give the SRT10 the Moton shocks as stock...I bet with these shocks alone properly calibrated the SRT would easily do a sub 8sec lap on the Ring..

    This SRT looks menacing..
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  2. rsviper94

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    Why can't we say [******]? I really would like to hear the story behind this. He does a great job keeping the Viper on top in all of these shootouts and that is great publicity for Dodge so why is it so bad to say [******].
     
  3. rsviper94

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    This is crazy, I just typed in his name and when I went back to read the post his name was gone. What is the huge deal? :confused: This is like grade school stuff - please someone explain.
     
  4. viper spray

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    [*****]
     
  5. Jay Herbert

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    Don't shoot the messenger, you are asking a fair question, and here is the answer:

    The current VCA policy is until any vendor fulfills all of their outstanding judgements, back taxes, and clears all pending legal cases and remains clear of the period of time that it would not be in the best interest of the VCA to promote their business or their business be promoted though Viper Club of America contact points. These contact points include VCA Notes, and ViperClub.org.

    If you would like a list of all the judgements, settlements, and pending cases, pertaining to any venfor you will need to contact state Attorney Generals, and acquire reports such as a Dunn and Bradstreet.

    There is at least one current unsatisfied judgements is in excess of $125,000 for this Vendor.

    We hope this answers your question.
     
  6. viper spray

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    I come here to find out about the fastest Viper , not your,my or anybody's tax problems,judgements or legal history. Do you not realize that you are driving people away from a great forum with censorship. we should be able to post the good, bad and ugly along with the fastest. Free country = free speech. I understand about rules on name calling , threats and foul language, I just want good solid performance info. on my car. thanks:Mike (cycleryan/viper spray)
     
  7. VIPER D

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    Were is the proof??? I'd like to see it. also are the judments viper related or hospital bills?


    vd..
     
  8. BadVenm

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    Original post was deleted by the writer.

    Said my peace, got it off my chest. Wanted to do that for a long time.
     
  9. VIPER D

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    Badvenm

    I know that I heard alot of bad stuff about him ,but I have really never seen the proof with my own eyes, I am the type of person that I like knowing instaed of hearing. I am not sticking up for the guy just want to see it for myself. Can some post a link to a good source for some docs.


    thanks
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  10. Anthony - 98 GTS

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    Can you please post the written policy?

    If this is true, then to be fair and equitable I assume that every Vendor and every Advertiser has to provide all this information on a routine basis (annually?). Please confirm. Who is in charge of collecting this information and is it accessable to all members?

    What does a pending legal case have to do with anything? Who determines if it is justified or valid until it is ruled upon by a court of law?

    I know of some outstanding issues on other Vendor's D&B statements and I also know of outstanding judgements on others. I assume if I post this information on this board these Vendors will be immediately censored until they prove these issues have been cleared. Correct?

    I look forward to your response.
     
  11. v10kingsnake

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    hey viper D want some proof on the car and driver ultimate sportcar shootout winner? order something from him, anything, let us know when you get it! this seems to be what i have heard but not experienced with him. strangly i would think various other tuners names will be censored here soon too. elite perhaps, who else got wronged. they should change the name here to www.vipersoaps.com
     
  12. Anthony - 98 GTS

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    Exactly, that is the greatest thing this site has to offer - the open exchange of experiences - both GOOD and BAD. This allows everyone to have as much information before they make a mod or choose a tuner. Why censor people????
     
  13. v10kingsnake

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    :D It will never change, but more and more will go to the alley to voice there uncensored opinions,i quess.
     
  14. jkracer9

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    I can understand that, "you don't understand" and that is easy to understand :D

    Everyone runs 11.6, right
    Low boost, first time at the event, great showing for RSI
    "no early morning gas additives" :2tu:
     
  15. VIPER D

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    A fully built motor v10 with twin turbos 11.6 thats not my cup of tea. I would be really pissed b/c the evo went that on a 4 cyl. Whats the point? :rolleyes:

    vd..
     
  16. VIPER D

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    When i had my 2000 gts I bought the tubes and filters from him. I also spoke to him and he was very nice to me. I got everything with no problems or delays. Just this week I finally got my archer racing parts that I ordered almost 3 weeks ago that was supposto be a 3 day delivery. Should we ban them from here. A far as elite goes I read it all and gotta say I would buy from them if I needed something. There are 3 sides to every story...

    vd..
     
  17. viper spray

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    Yeh! ,I bought from Elite two weeks ago with no problems at all........ :)
     
  18. gary

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    I am one who is glad that John is banned from viper club activity. why? I am one of the many people John ripped off. some of his cars work. especially his high profile cars.

    John built me an automatic that was an absolute disaster. the tranny ended up as a smoky molten mess of steel after 3k miles. his mechanic larry even apologized to me because he didn't want to build it and told john not to because he wasn't a tranny guy. john sold the trans that he removed from my car without my permission. it took me a few months to recover it. I finally got a replacement from him (minus the bell housing) but it was not my original tranny. I suspect it was from auto tranny victim #2. I spoke to victim #2 he said he never got his manual trans back from john and his was a disaster too. john said he would give me back half of the money on the blown trans but never did. john also cut the frame to fit the tranny and NEVER reinforced it.I had that fixed too. it took john 8 months to deliver the car. I finally got it after threatening to come to TX and take the car home. when I got there he was just finishing it after working only a week on it. he did a lousy job. you could not shift it. only PNRD and he didn't match the rear end for the trans. I remember speaking to one of his mechanics and he told me that john was building prowlers with big HP. I asked if they were beefing up the tranny, he said no, it will burn out. anyway, back to my story... I gave john an ultimatum, give me the money or I'll get a lawyer. john blew me off. I got a lawyer and I won a judgment against john for which I have only been able to collect 4%. john is very sneaky and knows how to evade the law and collectors, he is a good salesman and is smart, he treats locals quite different than non-locals as he knows who can more easily find him. as an aside, if anyone has advise on how to collect from john, I'd like to know.

    So you say get over it, don't be immature, it's childish. I tell you, grow up and stand up for a principle and for your fellow car owners. don't let john steal and destroy the dreams of your fellow car enthusiast. john used to use these boards to get free advertisement and lure people in. When I get my money back from john, I will be over it, but I will never forget and I would do my very best to protect unsuspecting people from this man and mostly, I would hope the Viper community would continue this ban.
     

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