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:)Having my 2001 Sapphire Blue RT/10 repainted to stock and was wondering if anybody knows if the PPG color in the chip book is the same for the Viper as any other vehicle that year? Just didn't know if there was a "special" Sapphire Blue for the Viper. Wanted to make sure before it goes down. Any help or does anybody know of the company that produced the paint??? Thanks! :)
 
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Not sure, ask a paint shop. I do know that I've never seen that Cor of paint on any other car before. I'm guessing that it's a 200+ '01 Viper only color. It's called "Deep Sapphire Blue" according to the factory.

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Not sure, ask a paint shop. I do know that I've never seen that Cor of paint on any other car before. I'm guessing that it's a 200+ '01 Viper only color. It's called "Deep Sapphire Blue" according to the factory.

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:confused:I thought the same. The paint shop has a company called PPG and they have a chip called Sapphire blue but I am going to make sure it is the same. Thanks!!
 

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if it is a good body shop. They have a scanner that they place on your car and it reads the color of the car and gives the body shop the mixing code. My family has a paint sales shop we only sell BASF paint and all body shop supplys. Check the shop out first see what paint they use and also see what kind of cars they work on. High end or low end cars. If u lived near me I could refer you to great high end body shops that work on bmw's lambo and so on. I would use these guys if I ever need paint or body work.

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if it is a good body shop. They have a scanner that they place on your car and it reads the color of the car and gives the body shop the mixing code. My family has a paint sales shop we only sell BASF paint and all body shop supplys. Check the shop out first see what paint they use and also see what kind of cars they work on. High end or low end cars. If u lived near me I could refer you to great high end body shops that work on bmw's lambo and so on. I would use these guys if I ever need paint or body work.

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:)This guy is very well known and does high end ground up restorations on very expensive autos. From old Porsches to Silver Cloud Rolls as well as others. I have confidence in his ability but wouldn't it be a Bi#ch if something stupid happened like a shade off on the paint. Thats why I am asking so when I go to him I can have all the info I need to get the match. I am sure he already knows but I am just covering all the bases. Thanks for the info!! :2tu:
 

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:)Got the info from the thread given above...Thanks!!!

If you are painting the car complete, the exact color match will not matter as much as having the correct paint code. A good body shop will paint a Viper with most of the parts off, unlike most other cars where matching the door jambs and such is necessary. Check with the paint shop or the paint supplier, whichever mixes the paint, if there are any color variances for that paint code. Some colors will have as many as ten variances, very slight differences due to different variables on the original paint job such as air pressure, type of paint used throughout the model year, different suppliers, etc.

You said you are bringing it back to the original color indicating that it has been repainted once before. I'd recomend stripping (mechanically, not chemically) some of the paint on there now. The prior repaint may not be the best quality making your undercoat unstable. Also, a slight difference in weight can affect the hood and its ability to stay up when raised.

As far as the above touch-up paint label, it indicates the following:
Deltron 2000 (DBC) 5695 Prime: This is a PPG brand basecoat urethane. Touch-ups often use basecoat paint because it does not need to be catalyzed and dries fast. It does however have a low gloss but that doesn't matter on a touch-up.
Chrysler Bridgewater Blue Pearlcoat: The name designated for that color by Chrysler, probably used on other vehicles worldwide as well, not necessarily the name on the window sticker.
Deep Sapphire Blue Satin Glow: The name designated by PPG.
Price Code N: The price charged for that particular mix based on the amount of high solids, the type and amount of pearl, the type and amount of pigment. Reds are usually the highest priced because of the cost of the pigment, pearls are expensive too.
MSDS DBC1: Refers to the Material Safety Data Sheet explaining the safety guidlines for using the product, the chemical contents, and the safety hazards.

I worked for PPG Coatings and Resins Division for 16 years and the best advise I can give anyone in this case is be sure the guy mixing the paint knows what he is doing. The ingredients are measured in grams and two drops can change a color significantly. Be sure all the paint is mixed at once. If two batches are mixed, mix them together before applying. Get a great, not just good, painter and check out his work beforehand. The paint suppliers will be the best ones to tell you who the best painters are.

Good luck.
 

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Wouldn't a competent painter know all of this info? You should not have to get after your Viper tech and make sure he is using the correct spark plugs just as in this case you should either trust him to know wha is going on or you should find someone who you do trust.
 
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