Roe's SC - who's running one?

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Roe\'s SC - who\'s running one?

Well if that doesn't look like an easy DIY blower, I don't know what it.

Personally, I've always had a thing for the ATIs, especially the newer P-1sc and D-1sc kits. No oil exchance, big transmission, serious durability. I'm sure one will find its way onto my Camaro soon.

This (roots style?) blower that Roe Racing looks interesting. No more classic dual-intake system look, but who can argue with up to 30% hp increase on a Viper? Roughly 120hp increase to 500rwhp.

Anyone here running one? I'm curious to hear your impressions about the install and the finished product.
 

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Re: Roe\'s SC - who\'s running one?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brett 91 RS LT1:
Roughly 120hp increase to 500rwhp.


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500 rwhp with the roe blower? you're shy about 80 rwhp just on the low end of the spectrum..

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This is some information I have been able to gather from Sean Roe and other sources about the unit.

The Roe Racing supercharger is an Opcon Autorotor. It is a Positive Displacement Twin Screw Supercharger. I have been told by the experts that it is one of the best on the market. Sean has really done his work on this unit. The fit and finish is fantastic. My Viper tech rarely comments on the quality of the mods I drop into my car, but he raved about this unit. I live in Califoirnia and run 91 octane on the street so I am currently using the VEC1 and a MSD boost retard unit supplied by Sean to make the necessary changes to air, fuel and timing. Sean is working with Autorotor on a cost effective engine management system. When he has perfected the unit, the VEC1 and MSD goes away for the much more efficient solution.

The Viper V10 is well suited for forced induction because the very large crankshaft and main bearings, the heavy valve train assembly which has two piece valves and light valve pressure and due to the engine having no camshaft bearings. The engine is built to handle a tremendous amount of power without having to reach high rpm. The SC has immediate power all the way through the power curve. This type of system pumps a constant amount of air per revolution which begins boost at a very low RPM. It also heats the air less which eliminates the need for an intercooler at lower boost. Sean's unit current runs five founds of boost.

The twin screw compressor is 75% to 85% adiabatic and volumetric efficient. A roots is commonly 40% to 55%. Common centrifugal superchargers have a peak of 65% to 80% but do just that, peak. Over an entire rpm range, a screw compressor has an average efficiency far greater than the roots or centrifugal.



Positive Displacement Twin Screw Autorotor Supercharger Operating Principles

Inlet Phase – The male and female rotors rotate counter to each other. As the lobes of each rotor travel past each inlet port, air is trapped between consecutive lobes and the cylindrical casing. The air moves axially (forward) throughout the case and fill the interlobe space between adjacent lobes.

Compression Phase – As the rotors mesh, the air is trapped between the rotors and the casing. Continued rotation progressively reduces the space occupied by the air causing compression.

Discharge Phase – Compression continues until the interlobe space becomes exposed to the outlet port, through which the air is discharged into the manifold.

The compression sequence continues on all rotor segments simultaneously. Timing gears synchronize the rotors. The rotors do not touch the casing or each other thus assuring long life, consistent performance and low power drain.

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Some of the experts may correct me on some of this, but I believe all of it to be fairly accurate.
 
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I have one and will be having the MSD Boost Retard box put on this Friday. I will post a full report.

I have photos of the installation here:
http://community.webshots.com/user/viperkat100

The installation went really easy, even with all the help you could see we were getting in my photographs. I think a 1 or 2 person installation would have easily taken the 5 hours that Sean said it would, but it took us longer because everyone wanted to turn a wrench to brag that they helped put a Roe Supercharger on a Viper.

Sean, as expected, has been very helpfull with any question that I've had about all of this. He's living proof of why he has the great reputation that he has.
 

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i have 2 and love them, easy install, flawless workmanship,great product,awesome look,oh yea i think i may even have gained some H.P
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Vipermed,that has got to be to coolest looking engine bay I have ever seen.I was thinking of polishing the intake runners of the SC but after seeing your Avatar,I will never be happy with just that now.That is just amazing.

Quality of the hardware was excellent .I hope to dyno my car after I get the MSD box,now I'm using a mix of 115 octane race fuel/93 octane.Feels like I'm running a 150 shot Nitrous system now that I never have to refill.Too cool.
 

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thanks for the kind words, i can help you with any info you may need as i have done all of my own mods and many others like it, Scott
 
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Wow, can you tell I was falling asleep when I posted that? Poor diction!

I had been reading a few comments on the blower while searching the archives and thought I would ask those who had them installed. I took (450hp x .85)x 1.3 to get the advertized rwhp % increase that Roe claims on the site. Apparently its a bit more
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Impressive #s for 5psi!

Has anyone dyno'd the blower on an internally stock V-10 with factory manifolds vs. the same with headers? Just curious to see what the power difference would be.

Looks as though I need to educate myself more on the twin screw blowers. Until recently, I've been indoctrinated with the centrifugals of such fame and success through the 90s. The basic info that Larry put out in his post was enough to warrant some reading. Does anyone have a link or two where I could find some good technical discussions on twin screws and the Opcon Autorotor?

I'm a techno-file when it comes to cars - can't get enough of it. My Camaro is rolling proof of that. Now I need to get my hands on a Viper.
 
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