SVS Stryker SC stage 1 - pics, video and dyno sheet

[SVS Turbo]

Spent half the day at the dyno today and everyone was extremely pleased with the results.

Our current progress has surpassed our initial calculations of expected HP, TRQ and Boost. This Stryker SC will shock anyone on the road. Drives and sounds like stock but will suprise the *hit out of the car next to you.

The best part is that we are not finished with this system yet. We still need to put larger injectors w/ fuel rails and take out the cats. It is very possible to net 750 Hp at the crank.

The system also needs some finishing touches before it gets delivered. It will look even better when complete.

Will post more when we are finished



She's a little dirty but Scott will make her shine.

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Dyno Run / 596rwhp - 598rwftlbs @ 6.5psi

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[DChan415]

Very impressive. Motec?

 

[Miles B]

Is that an IC I see?

 

[CHAD]

Don't some of the other S/C tuners make power similar to your crank horsepower, at the rear wheels? I know I have witnessed one.

Chad

 

[Russ M]

Cool looks like another great SC kit. Now for the important part how much? And what is used for fuel/ignition management.

Thanks

 

[SVS Turbo]

Is that an IC I see?

Intercooler?

 

[SVS Turbo]

Very impressive. Motec?

Very appreciated, thank you. Yes.

SVS

 

[SVS Turbo]

Don't some of the other S/C tuners make power similar to your crank horsepower, at the rear wheels? I know I have witnessed one.

Chad

BADASP: Great observation, we are one of those tuners you speak of. We have done a lot more R&D than we put out on the table in these forums.

It is in common in this industry that performance packages be offered in Stages. Each greater stage typically offering more power. We are in the process of preparing our stages so that our customers can purchase systems that are tuned for their budget and upgrade as they can afford or desire.

Take note that we call this our Stage 1 Supercharger kit. So first of all, as I mentioned… this car was running stock fuel injectors. Sorry but this is all they have in them. We will yield better results once we get the fuel that this engine needs. Not only that, but as you can see in the dyno picture… that was only the 4th pull this car made… Not sure if you have ever tried tuning a standalone fuel management system but 4 runs just doesn’t get you the max results.

This car has quite a bit left in it, and in short time we will be maximizing its potential and reliability on its stock Gen II engine. Just one step at a time. We were all just really excited about our results so early with this car that I had to speak up a little. Please just give us a little more time to get this introductory stage 1 complete. When it is complete it will yield even greater results.

Has anyone else even put a supercharger on a viper with stock headers and exhaust w/ the stock cats on? At any rate, more to come.

Thanks

SVS

 

[Gerald]

"Has anyone else even put a supercharger on a viper with stock headers and exhaust w/ the stock cats on? At any rate, more to come"

They sure have Ron,

and it yields 750RWHP. Entirely stock, cats , manifold, stock headers and cast pistons. Car is alive and runs stong as F**K. oh yeah, this is a Level I also.

Gerald

 

[SVS Turbo]

"Has anyone else even put a supercharger on a viper with stock headers and exhaust w/ the stock cats on? At any rate, more to come"

They sure have Ron,

and it yields 750RWHP. Entirely stock, cats , manifold, stock headers and cast pistons. Car is alive and runs stong as F**K. oh yeah, this is a Level I also.

Gerald

Thats awesome #'s Gerald. Really was'nt sure what is out there. Is that Viper yours?

SVS

 

[BlueGTS]

What kind of prices are we talking for this stage 1. It is hard to judge a system without knowing the ballpark price.

We really have a lot of great choices in SCers now. It was not like this 1 year ago.

 

[JGK95]

DAMN THATS A WORK OF ART!!

Now fine tune it and finish!! I'd like to see those numbers!

Jay K.

 

[Gerald]

"Has anyone else even put a supercharger on a viper with stock headers and exhaust w/ the stock cats on? At any rate, more to come"

They sure have Ron,

and it yields 750RWHP. Entirely stock, cats , manifold, stock headers and cast pistons. Car is alive and runs stong as F**K. oh yeah, this is a Level I also.

Gerald

Thats awesome #'s Gerald. Really was'nt sure what is out there. Is that Viper yours?

SVS

No , I have a Level II with an intercooler.
There are quite a few Level I's with numbers similar to the ones I told you about, totally stock, and some with just high flow cats or cats removed.

Gerald

 

[Snakester]

It is indeed a fine achievement, to which tuning will no doubt improve. But the key unanswered question is "at what price?".

-Dean.

 

[Miles B]

Is that an IC I see?

Intercooler?

The box that has the pipe coming out of it, that goes to the TBs. I was thinking either air-water IC, or a chamber?

 

[OutThere]

I don't understand why DLM is the only one who's been able to figure out how to provide a SC system on a Gen1.... I know Roe is working on another but you'd think there should be more.

Nice work here SVS. Best of luck with it.

 

[Russ M]

I don't understand why DLM is the only one who's been able to figure out how to provide a SC system on a Gen1.... I know Roe is working on another but you'd think there should be more.

Nice work here SVS. Best of luck with it.

Simple,

Price.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 are totaly different cars when it comes to engine management, so unless you use a Motec box or something equivalent it cant be done properly.

Now being a Gen 1 owner are you willing to pay arround 20k for a blower kit?

 

[OutThere]

"Now being a Gen 1 owner are you willing to pay arround 20k for a blower kit?"

Yes but I will research the $8K Roe product when it released-. I have no problem putting money into my car to get it the way I want it but I won't just throw it away.

To date:
I have over $4K into the audio
I have over $10K into the interior
I have approx $6K in Headers, Cats, Tubes, Misc.

Next (over the next 12-18 months):

Super Charger & Engine Mods
Brakes
Hardtop and front spoiler
Conclude with at least $10K in paint work
Sums up to my vision of a "Perfect Car"

It's not an investment.... it's my Viper!

 

[RedSnakeGTS]

why dont you just buy a gen II?

 

[Miles B]

Uh oh!

 

[Chuck B 98 GTS]

I don't understand why DLM is the only one who's been able to figure out how to provide a SC system on a Gen1.... I know Roe is working on another but you'd think there should be more.

Nice work here SVS. Best of luck with it.

Simple,

Price.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 are totaly different cars when it comes to engine management, so unless you use a Motec box or something equivalent it cant be done properly.

Now being a Gen 1 owner are you willing to pay arround 20k for a blower kit?

DLM has been around a Loooooong time and started supercharging with Gen I cars first, not with Gen II's. I don't think it's a matter of cost, his Gen systems start 18k installed with an IC? But I don't think you can just bolt a supercharger system on a Gen I without other modifications. The head gaskets on the Gen I cars are junk and won't hold under high pressure and especially without intercooling. The gaskets burn right through.

Cheers,
Chuck

 

[OutThere]

"why dont you just buy a gen II?"

I said my perfect car...

The GTS doesn't do it for me (maybe after I get an 04 SRT) and I am very much an Old School Viper guy. The closer the car looks and drives to the original I fell in love with (and never thought I would be able to afford) in 1992 the better. 95 made the most sense for me. It's the last of the true Gen1 RT/10s and most of the bugs had been worked out.

I was very lucky and got a great car though. The head gasket was replaced in 1999, according to the computer printout from the dealer I bought it from in 01, and the car has never given me a second of trouble besides the battery dying last winter (my fault for not keeping it tendered). 28,500 miles and everything has always worked; always starts on the first crank; dyno's at 430 RWHP.... which is nice and fast but I think something closer to 600 RWHP would be perfect..... for my perfect car!

Sorry to go off topic... I'll shut up now.

 

[Russ M]

"Now being a Gen 1 owner are you willing to pay arround 20k for a blower kit?"

Yes but I will research the $8K Roe product when it released-. I have no problem putting money into my car to get it the way I want it but I won't just throw it away.

To date:
I have over $4K into the audio
I have over $10K into the interior
I have approx $6K in Headers, Cats, Tubes, Misc.

Next (over the next 12-18 months):

Super Charger & Engine Mods
Brakes
Hardtop and front spoiler
Conclude with at least $10K in paint work
Sums up to my vision of a "Perfect Car"

It's not an investment.... it's my Viper!

Ok then,

if you are willing to pay 20k for a blower kit, then why not buy the DLM package?

 

[Russ M]

Now back on topic.

HOW MUCH?

 

[OutThere]

Russ - SVS has one of the best Viper tuner web sites around:

www.supervipersystems.com

They list the stage 1 SC system for $21,000 installed but it seems to be a bit different than what has been shown here.

RE: DLM - Very well may go with the DLM package. However, if the Roe system makes close to the same power as DLM Stage 1, for $8,000 vs $19,000 then my choice seems clear. Thinking about combining it with something like the APEX 650 package. I already have the APEX 500 installed so when you delete those aspects from the 650 and add the Roe system, it will probably equal what the DLM Stage 1 would cost and give me a lot more. Though, I still do not know everything that is included in the DLM Stage 1 system.

Still learning....

 

[SVS Turbo]

They list the stage 1 SC system for $21,000 installed but it seems to be a bit different than what has been shown here.


Still learning....

The pictures on the web are very old and reflect most all of our r+D and testing stages. Working on a new website with all current pricing. I'm learning how to create a website and build it myself. Macromedia dreamweaver is pretty cool.

A few nice features of a SVS Stryker SC system:

Can be installed on all Vipers, Gen I and Gen II (Gen III system is under development)

The Stryker SC is the only Viper Supercharged System on the market that is purely managed by Stand Alone Engine Management.

Motec manages the engine precisely and with the greatest exactness available. All BoostedV10 engines produced by SVS utilize Motec engine management. Tuning with Motec allows greater precision and more flexability than a piggy back system.

A SVS Stryker SC can be built with either an Air to Water intercooler system or Air to Air intercooler system. With an Air to Air intercooler system the Stryker SC stage 1 will be less expensive than with the Air to Water. Both systems have their advantages.

Everyone at SVS has discussed what RWHP #’s the Stryker SC stage 1 should be packaged at for safety and longevity. We feel safe at 650-675rwhp on a stock engine at 7psi. That is 750+ Hp at the crank on a stock engine. That’s a 300+ hp increase from stock! That’s 75%! We can place it higher by increasing the boost, maybe to 10 or hmmmm 12psi……..but that’s pushing it! Anyone care to achieve a record for the highest rwhp out of a stock engine? SVS and stand alone engine management. If Gerald said that 750rwhp on a few stock V-10 engines has been accomplished, than it must be totally safe while utilizing a piggyback system. We will have great control over all the parameters of the engine by utilizing Motec and our tuning capabilities. I wonder how much psi those systems are running?

A stage 1 system might be slightly higher priced than what is currently available, but that is because you are paying for the best engine management possible for the Viper V-10 in the first stage. The Stryker SC stage 2 and stage 3 systems will also be adjusted.

Managing a boosted V10 engine is complex. I have witnessed many struggles while SVS was researching and developing boosted V10’s. We tried a piggy back system in 1995. We saw how it limited us from controlling the engine parameters the way that we wanted to. Since then we never turned back.

You can buy a cheaper system and continually add more and more things to it until you end up at the same price level that our Stage 1 is at, and then wait until something is figured out that will run it more efficiently. Or you can get what is now available and ready to roll, out the door with the highest of quality.

SVS

 

[Gerald]

I'd be careful going with a stroker motor then adding the S/C'er. Really no reason when a supercharger already makes the motor breath and act like a bigger motor. Money wasted when you can just take it to a tuner who can give you just as much or more without stroking it. Superchargers also don't like stroked motors.

I think someone had a bad experience with a stroked motor AND Supercharged motor here on the board. Forgot who it was though..

Gerald

 

[CHAD]

I thought it was LETHAL. Wasn't he trying to get 1000+ rwhp out of something like 5psi and no intercooler?

Chad

 

[SVS Turbo]

Getting ready to go to the dyno and test with fuel rails, larger injectors, and high flow cats. Will keep everyone posted!

SVS