update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

[Mike Adams]

I have only managed to find approximately 5 hrs to work on my own car on the weekend here is where it stands so far. Biggest problem I ran into was finding a tap for a 3/8 npt on a Saturday afternoon. I went to Canadian Tire, Home Hardware, and the Home Depot no luck. Next day Sunday went to our parts store we own lo and behold we had one in stock. So I wasted an Hr looking for it so I guess I am really 4 hrs in. Second install would be about 1 hr less

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[Larry Macedo]

Lookin good, Mike! I have one, possibly two coming in next week for the tuner kit and will definitely forward all the info and PICS as well.

 

[DChan415]

Looks very nice. Hows it run?

 

[Mike Adams]

i will let you know when done

 

[Snakester]

Thanks for the pics Mike. I like look of the blue intake and valve covers too.

-Dean.

 

[Yellow Fever]

DAYYYYYYYYYYYUM ! Very Nice Mike

Keep us posted

Cheers
Jeff

 

[Joseph Dell]

What is such a shame is that the kit looks GORGEOUS but then they use those crappy intake tubes to go from the Y pipe to the throttle body (s).

If those were polished it would look even more phat than it already is.

Can I say phat? Or am I too old for that?

JD

 

[Nexus-6]

Can I say phat? Or am I too old for that?

JD

lol - if you weren't mugged by kids upong clicking continue then I think you're still young enough.

 

[WilBriK]

Mike,

Got another update on the SC install? I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting to hear the final results

 

[Mike Adams]

It is finished the install went very smooth I am going to run it a few days to make sure nothing goes wrong then I will be taking in to the dyno hopefully friday if I can get an appointment and if the weather agrees. I am really impressed with the installation though. The car runs like stock. Starts perfect, no warm up period required completely passed an emission test. The side sills are still cool as before the installation (random techs).

I must admit the kit was better than I had oridinally hoped for.

 

[FranciscoR.]

Mike, how much and what was included again? ( just total curiosity. )

 

[FE 065]

What's that bar running across from one side of your frame to the other under the ends of Y for your s/c?

 

[Mike Adams]

That is the replacement cross member paxton supplies to replace the factory cross member

 

[FE 065]

It looks like it has rod ends on it to allow easy mounting, but would't it also allow frame twist or movement? Maybe there's more to it then what's visible in an overhead shot. The Paxton kit looks great Mike!

 

[J DAWG]

So would you consider this a weekend project or 2? Is this a total do it yourself deal?

Isn't it around 6 lbs of boost?

 

[FE 065]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

Normally I wouldn't have had the crossmember come to mind. But a few weeks ago I was talking with a retired Viper race mechanic and he mentioned that changes in the front end alignment were noticed/measured by race teams as the OE aluminum crossmember expanded due to heat in the engine compartment. So it seems it's more than just a piece of square tubing stuck up there. At least on the race level where alignment might be hyper-critical. But I'm sure on the street we don't want any changes or flex up front either.

 

[Mike Adams]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

You would defininetly want a hoist to make it easier althought if you are stubborn enough I am sure you could do it on jack stands. You do require a good set of tools. The first time is a 2 weekend job. I could do it in approx 10 to 12 hrs the second time. Please wait till I have tested it a little more and I will offer a killer price on the kits for you. If you get it to me I will even do installs.

 

[Mike Adams]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

As far as the cross member goes the design would offer less flex and expantion than the stock cross member I think it would be better than the stock set up.

 

[SilverViperGTS]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

@Mike: I am interested in this kit. Bishop sales has quoted the kit for $9,581 (Canadian dollars) + GST (shipping included). How much did you pay?

Thanks.

 

[SapphireGTS]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

How is the install. I know its a little more complicated then the Roe. I just did the Roe and it was pretty easy. I read the instructions for the Paxton and it seems a lot more involved. I cant wait to see the numbers.

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

SHOW ME THE NUMBERS !!

#'S DONT LIE !! (dyno #'s that is)


Thanks Mike, Viper Community sure does appeciate you "eating your own dog food", before letting it out on your customers. (Yes, I know you dont make the product, but your customers will associate you with the product as the sales person).

Let us know how it goes... very exciting !!

-Jon

 

[Fishtail]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

Nice for sure I would be interested in the hp numbers it puts out when the engine is at operating temp.
Boost baby!

-Lou

 

[ViperJoe]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

What kind of SC is the Paxton vs the Roe? (centrifical vs roots?)

What are the benefits / tradeoffs of each

 

[SapphireGTS]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

This has been covered before.

The Roe is a Twin Screw. Different than the Eaton Roots type.


The centrifugal (Paxton) is belt driven and forces air into the intake, a twin screw design (roe) actually
act as your upper intake. They both have advantages. Twin screw looks cooler but usually generated more heat and deals with more friction. They are both great designs and no one can really say which is better.

 

[SapphireGTS]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

twin screw

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centrifugal

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[Sean Roe]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

"Twin screw looks cooler but usually generated more heat and deals with more friction"

Actually, the twin screw is more efficient at lower RPMs and operates at cooler temperatures across the board. Neither style, centrifugal or twin screw, have rotors or impellers that contact anything but air. The rotor clearance on the Autorotor compressor is 0.002". One style makes power low and throughout the power band (positive displacement Superchargers make more Torque gains than HP) while the other style makes power up high (centrifugal Superchargers make more HP gains than torque). I'm interested in seeing actual dyno graphs of the 6-7 psi Paxton kit also.
What else is done to your motor Mike?

Regards,
Sean

 

[Mike Adams]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

I have stock compression with polished headed, big valves, a mild crower cam upgrade, stock pistons and rings, Headers, random tech cats, and B&B cat back. T&D roller rockers. And a Walboro fuel pump from JPH which was installed when my stock on did the usual morning no start thing.

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

Looks Awesome Mike! I gotta check this thing out some time. This cool fall air has got to be worth some extra ponies! How loud is the blower at idle and when you're on it? Can you hear the whine?

Craig

 

[Newport Viper]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

Is it me, or is the intake hose kinked on the right side of the twin screw?

 

[Mike Adams]

Re: update report on Paxton install 5 hrs in

It is really not that loud it is about the same as the Roe blower I had on before