Viper Days 2004 Jan event details are now here!

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Hello Viper Drivers:

Everyone at Viper Days has been working hard getting the 2004 season ready to roll. This is the first peak at the Jan event details. They should be up on the web site shortly but you can see them now below! Hope to see all of you at the first event!! Please read everything very closely because there have been alot of changes since last year!!

Viper Days Michelin Challenge Series Details:

2004 VIPER DAYS
DETAILS FOR…….. Willow Springs Jan. 24th & 25th


FIRST EVENT OF THE SEASON: Come out to the track and test your car driving skills and learn some new ones. Please see the track web site for track map, directions to track and video. www.willowspringsraceway.com
Track Address: 3500 – 75th St. West Rosamond, CA 93560 661-256-2471 Run track Clockwise!!

FRIDAY TEST & TUNE: Please call the track for the Friday reservations & info. 661-256-2471 You must have a roll bar/roll cage, fire suppressions system & fire extinguisher CALL THE TRACK FOR RESERVATIONS OR JUST SHOW UP!! DO NOT CALL Courtney

COST: $665.00 or $615.00 for VCA member one time discount (VCA # required) for a registration/reception party location TBA, a Saturday night banquet location TBA, commemorative gift and extensive track time. One day entry $300!

GATE/SPECTATOR FEE: Willow Springs is charging $10 for every person who enters thru the gate. Good for the whole weekend!! Kids 8 & under free.

PAYMENT: Viper days accepts Visa and Master Card. Make checks payable to: Viper Days, Inc. Payment for each event is paid in full prior to the event!! Late Entry- 7 days before event will result in a $50 late fee, NO EXCEPTIONS!!

HOTEL INFO: Be sure to call the Park Plaza to make room reservations and ask for the Viper Days rooms. Mention the Viper Days room block for the discounted rate. Rooms will be released Jan. 19th. So call NOW!!!!

Host Hotel: Park Plaza www.bigpages.com 661-948-0961
44916 North 10th St. West
Lancaster, CA 93534
$60/night (which includes continental breakfast, drinks coupons and nightly appetizers)
65 Rooms reserved!!

TRACK SIDE SERVICE Archer Racing Accessories is the Exclusive trackside service company. Archer Racing can do all track needs including suspension, brakes, alignments, engine modifications and exhaust. If there is something specific you will like, Call John and make an appointment. 218-727-4806

TIRES Bobby Archer Enterprises is the Exclusive provider of trackside safety needs, tire mounting and balancing, and sales. Those needing Michelin or Hoosier tires please call ahead and order them so they can bring them to the track. Call Bobby @ 817-877-1772 LAST DATE TO ORDER TIRES IS JAN 14th Call Dan or Bobby 817-877-1772

TRAILER AND RIG PARKING Thursday drop off OK from 8am-5pm!! Parking will be open to accept parking all day Friday starting at 7am-10:30pm but will charge you $10 if you do NOT plan on driving that day and arrive after 3pm.

CAMPERS/MOTORCOACHES Are ALLOWED to camp overnight self-contained. Electricity is available $25/2 days $35/3 days. Please pay Willow Springs at the office or call ahead 661-256-2471 ask for Lisa.

FUEL The track is selling 110 leaded, and 100 unleaded. $5/gal

GARAGES FOR RENT: garages are available thru Willow Springs Direct $150/2 days, $175/3 days. Call Lisa or Rick and reserve a garage 661-256-2471

REQUIRED TO BRING Helmets with Snell rating of 95 or be no more then 5 years old. No motorcycle helmets unless you wear a belaclava. Long sleeve shirt and pants required. ***********

MED STATS 2003 IS MANDATORY! There is a NEW form requiring additional information. Please bring your Med+Stats lanyard or fill out Med+Stats confidential information and return with payment ASAP. Renewal will be only $ 15.00.





FRIDAY NIGHT ARRIVAL: 6PM until 9PM at location TBA. Check in and register at the reception with hors d’oeuvres. Tech. inspection will occur all day Friday at the track or Saturday morning. Please join us for hors d’oeuvres, drinks and some Viper Tales. A Viper tech inspection tip: empty your glove box and trunk at the hotel instead of the track.

GUEST PACKAGE: For those who do not wish to put their car on the track and/or guests, we offer a food package of the reception and a banquet for $65.00 per person. Children will be given a discount, must call Courtney for details!! Dinner only is $45

GATE HOURS: Thursday: 8-5, Friday 7am-10: 30pm, Sat & Sun 6:30am-Midnight

TRACK INFO

SATURDAY: The hotel will have a free continental breakfast available, Be at track by 6:30AM and drive-arounds begin at 7:00. MANDATORY drivers meeting at 7:20. If arriving on Saturday morning, be at the track by 6:30 AM for registration and tech inspection the track will go hot at 8:00. Classroom instruction begins at 8:00 AM, Banquet location TBA,

SUNDAY: The hotel will have a free continental breakfast available. Be at the track by 7:30 AM. Driver meeting at 7:45 the track will go hot at 8:00.

MICHELIN Challenge Series
Sponsors help bring Viper Days to you and to justify there sponsorship we ask you to buy from Bobby Archer, Archer Racing Accessories. We realize you can buy these products anywhere, but we cannot quantify sales without purchasing thru our vendors. It would help out Viper Days if you supported them. Shop around and compare, their prices are competitive!!

Stock- Michelin DOT tires only
Super Stock- Michelin DOT tires
Prepared- Michelin DOT tires only
Modified- Michelin DOT tires only
Super Modified- Michelin DOT tires or Pilot Sport Cup ONLY****
Unlimited- Michelin DOT tires or Pilot Sport Cup ONLY*****
Comp Coupe Unlimited (only allowed changes are Seat, Steering Wheel, Shifter, Pedals, Safety Harnesses)****
Neon SRT/4-Michelin DOT stock tire or the Pilot Sport Cup!!


*****IMPORTANT NEW Information FOR 2004*****

SRT/10 must have a speed-limiting computer issued by Viper Days Inc. or a roll bar in order to participate! Please call Courtney for the details. 847-594-8477
A few items have changed on the matrix. Please see the link www.viperdays.com/rules.html
RT/10's must have a roll bar or hardtop.
Helmets must be Snell 95 or newer AND less than 5 years old. Motorcycle helmets require a balaclava.
Long sleeve shirt, long pants, soft sole enclosed toe shoes required for all classes.
Gloves are highly recommended

www.willowspringsraceway.com to get directions, hot lap around track, track map, etc.
www.weather.com and type in the zip code of 93560 to get the area weather
www.mapquest.com to get directions to and from your house to the track, hotel etc..

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Do those Pilot Cups come in 17 inch?

 

[CT]

Chuck-

Call Bobby Archer for the exact Viper Sizes. 817-877-1772

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

I don't see the 04 schedule yet. Hope it's on the site soon.

 

[GTS Dean]

18" only for the Pilot Cup tires.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

18" only for the Pilot Cup tires.

That blows. WTH am I supposed to do with this extra set of 17 Forgelines?

No wise "cracks" please.

 

[Bugeater]

What happened to the Unlimited class allowing Hoosiers?

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Sounds like Michelin stepped up their sponsorship.

 

[FrankBarba]

Michelin might have stepped up their sponsorship, but it still costs about $900.00 to race.

 

[Sonny 00 GTS ACR]

I read $665 for two full days - $615 with a VCA first-time discount or $300 for a single day, what are you reading Frank?

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

$665 is for the Michelin Challenge. I thought you big guns had to pay a little more.

 

[FrankBarba]

I looked it up. Cost is $665.00 with a discount for first timer. I am excluded from any discounts. I was even excluded when they had a 1/2 price sale on events. So you take the $665 ad a test day on friday say $250, then since i would rather race it's another $150, i got $1,065.00 into a race weekend. I don't make the $$$$ that some do. Yes i have an expensive hobby, yes i drive vipers, but 1 of the Viper Days weekends costs avg. $ 7500.00 - 10000.00 depending on where it is located. I know that VD's ********* guys will come back with, Track time, lots of Track time, people are great, there is help anytime you need it, there are even companies there that will do the work on your car, install new parts for you, ect...And i'll agree wtih you 100%, I'm not going to debate any of this with you all, Viper Days is great for some, not for others. So now i choose to race in other sanactioning bodies, become an instructor (get free track time & races) and still get the thrill of racing against cars in my class, at a considerable cost that is far less than Viper Days.

 

[Rich Wesorick]

Frank:

If you don't attend a Viper Days event, how will you ever get your grill back?????

 

[Janni]

Frank,
We ran the VRL for the first time this year. Granted, we are on a budget - and don't have "paid crew" (although I am thinking about billing Henry formally this year...) and even with event fees and tires, transportation and lodging, we are looking at about $4500 per weekend - and that includes EVERYTHING - food, fuel for both the truck and the trailer, lodging, incidentals, car maintenance / fluids. For the track time, the atmosphere and the no contact rules, it's a much better deal than most other race events.

Don't even get me started on SCCA weekends. Road Atlanta over Labor Day would have been $600 instead of $900 (for a double event) and it would have been about a total of 3 hours track time spread over 4 DAYS - I cannot stand the 1/2 hour per day... compared to the 8 hours for Viper Days. Event prices are really not the cost drivers for racers - you know that.

And instructors are always needed - you might be able to help offset costs by doing that, too, although we have found that racing at ViperDays, because you get so much track time, makes instructing difficult.

Why do you have to have to post a negative comment any time ViperDays is mentioned? You posted a relavent item about Michelin and sponsorship, and them felt it necessary to throw in a zinger.

 

[JoeB]

Going out to a local club event and kicking everyone *ss in a CC or GT1 car is fun, forrrr 2 laps? --> then what? AND ALL FOR $199.99

Going out and racing against all the same CC'S or GT1 cars --> Priceless

Joe (PRICELESS) B

 

[Sonny 00 GTS ACR]

First of all, the Michelin Challenge Series is not a race. And yes it does cost more to go to the same weekend and enter the VRL race which is run on Hoosier tires. But as most people who have competed know, the entry fee is the cheapest part of the weekend. Transportation, lodging, tires, and fuel always dwarf the entry fee no matter what series you compete in.

People like Viperdays for all of the reasons you mentioned Frank, and if you have carved out a nice arrangement for yourself with SCCA, God bless you, but don't brag about it and try to bash Viperdays - your argument is very weak.

 

[FrankBarba]

Rich...I doubt i will ever see my grill again from Howie Frank.

Janni....In my first post i didn't mean to be a zinger. I was stating what it would cost to race in the Viper Racing League. If i offended anyone by that comment i am sorry. But is is the truth.

My 2nd post I agree'd before anyone could even bring up how great Viper Days is...I agreed 100%, before anyone could come back with Track Time, The People, and everything else. So i put that part to rest before anyone could come back with it. I also stated that Viper Days is great for some but not for others.

What did you mean by:"Event prices are really not the cost drivers for races"? If you mean alot more $$$ goes into the car as far as time & prepardness i agree, i do not dispute this at all.

I'll go on record stating that Viper Days is Great. Everyone that attends Loves it. Skip, Courtney, Tracey and anyone else that works for Viper Days does 1 hell of a JOB. Do i miss it? Yes i do. But for what a weekend of racing costs with Viper Days vs other events i no longer choose to attend.

I've tried to attend Viper Days in the past. When they had special pricing I called to reserve my spot, only to be told that special pricing is only for first timers. Will i race my "Green Meanie" or my Comp Coupe with Viper Days? Who knows, things change, they do not always stay the same.
Would i attend as an instructor? I've never been asked.

I don't recall any negative posts i've made about Viper Days. If i did could you please email me those posts, i'll re-read them.