I do not feel safe anymore, why?

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

Hey guys,

Bought my viper about a year ago, I have been meaning to post this thread or get it checked out but I have simply been too busy.

Here's the deal, when I am driving on the road, my car seems very loose and almost scary to drive if I am going over 90 mph+, when I switch lanes its just very "loose" feelings. Its hard to explain, just not tight like it should be. There is just a small amount of play, but not really, maybe like a half inch or something, maybe less. I wouldnt expect that to be the issue.

Please help

Thanks.

-B

Joseph Dell · Dec 10, 2008

Get an alignment. well worth while. that should fix it for you.

Good luck!

Warfang · Dec 10, 2008

Patient: It hurts when I do that
Doc: Then don't do that

What JD said... have you also checked the date on the tires too? If they're really old, it might add to the problem.

...and would someone change the man's status to "Owner"?

bluesrt · Dec 10, 2008

if ur tires are half tread or below,they will grab the road and run you all over it,allways keep next to new tires on that car of yours,its the best investment u can purchase,u will be amazed on how much better it will drive.its easy to get used to junk tires until u get new ones,u dont know how bad they

really drive your car!

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

Thanks for the help, defiantly going to take it to the shop for a much needed alignment, then maybe some new tires.

ViperGTS · Dec 10, 2008

A little more and precise info on your car would help...
tires, age, pressure,
alignment,
suspension,
steering (recall done!?)
...

bluesrt · Dec 10, 2008

alighnment wont help ur problem

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

ViperGTS said:
A little more and precise info on your car would help...
tires, age, pressure,
alignment,
suspension,
steering (recall done!?)
...

The recall? What is this? Do you think that could be my problem?

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

bluesrt said:
alighnment wont help ur problem

What do you suggest then?

ViperGTS · Dec 10, 2008

YOU (!) should post some more infos about your Viper!
year, tires (brand), air pressure, age!, etc....

And pictures, of course!

P.S.: SRT-10's had no recall - sorry.

bluesrt · Dec 10, 2008

new tires,everybody allways thinks they need a alighnment,even shops will brainwash you,unless your car has been thrashed and abused,steering wheel off center to the moon,a alighnment wont help,again,if your tires are not super fresh and like new,they will make your car feel like a piece of shxxt!

Bandit3 · Dec 10, 2008

What state are you in? I can recommend a shop that will do perfect alignments and will not up sell you uneeded repairs/parts. My 95 and the 06 Viper are squirrely (is that a word) in Fla due to the high center crown of the roads.

RevHeat · Dec 10, 2008

Was the car ever involved in a wreck. Its a stretch, but it could be that the frame is bent. I hope that is not the case.

Rev

gb66gth · Dec 10, 2008

You may also want to check that the sawy bars are securely attached. I know it sounds funny but I had a sway bar bolt back itself all the way out, (almost lost the darn thing)that will definitely effect the car's handling

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

Bandit3 said:
What state are you in? I can recommend a shop that will do perfect alignments and will not up sell you uneeded repairs/parts. My 95 and the 06 Viper are squirrely (is that a word) in Fla due to the high center crown of the roads.

I live in Austin Texas

Bandit3 · Dec 10, 2008

Ok, too far. Alignment first as per JDell. Ask here for recommendations close by.

Steve-Indy · Dec 10, 2008

The year HELPS in these discussions...and after reviewing all of your past posts...it appears that you are referencing a 2004 SRT-10 with 25,000+ miles on it.

If that is the case, follow the above suggestions by FIRST checking your tire pressures, check the tires themselves (and likely replace the OEM runflats), put it on a lift and look for "problems"...including all of the suspension parts as well as the frame. Then complete the above suggested alignment, making sure that the shop prints out the readings before and after the job is finished.
As an aside, I find our 03 SRT-10 is the most "squirrely" of all of our Vipers...most of which I blame on the run-flats, especially in cool weather.

gb66gth · Dec 10, 2008

oops, i meant sway bar

ILLSMOQ · Dec 10, 2008

must have missed the year but my 04 had this problem. The bolt in the steering u-joint needed to be tightend. IT was torqued properly but the u-joint had to be crushed a bit to get it tight on the steering shaft. I tightened it up then loosend it up then re-torqued it.

ILLSMOQ · Dec 10, 2008

check this bolt

ILLSMOQ · Dec 10, 2008

night and day difference

wastntim · Dec 10, 2008

bluesrt said:
alighnment wont help ur problem

I completely disagree. I had a mishap with the aligment on my car. Got caught in the rain on the highway and almost wrecked a dozen times. Both rears were towed in almost a half inch. It did exactly what you are describing.

berneto · Dec 10, 2008

ILLSMOQ said:
night and day difference

Will take a look at that also

Thanks for the image

vincy · Dec 10, 2008

My 08 was like that when brand new, with Motons. It felt unstable and dangerous even at resoanble speeds. And if you spun the wheels at all the rear would kick out. I had a race driver drive it and he said it was dangerous. His shop did an allignment and adjusted the shocks and its like a different car. Stable on the street. I had it to a road course and it was not loose or scary, felt stable at the limits. The work was done by TPC in Jessup, Maryland, if you are in this area.

bluesrt · Dec 10, 2008

vincy said:
My 08 was like that when brand new, with Motons. It felt unstable and dangerous even at resoanble speeds. And if you spun the wheels at all the rear would kick out. I had a race driver drive it and he said it was dangerous. His shop did an allignment and adjusted the shocks and its like a different car. Stable on the street. I had it to a road course and it was not loose or scary, felt stable at the limits. The work was done by TPC in Jessup, Maryland, if you are in this area.

i think u just got the placebo efect!lol

Scotty-tnt · Dec 10, 2008

I live in Washington State and the roads are crappy here. When I put the Penski setup in my car it helped alot, But at higher speeds if its on the softer settings...Hang on if there is a rut from the trucks in the road.
Our SRT4 with 480whp is even more crazy.

Tere · Dec 10, 2008

Check out the South-Central Texas VCA get together this coming Saturday in Austin -- see the regional forums.

We'll have several folks there who can take a peek at it. We'll also be dynoing.

got one · Dec 10, 2008

Tere said:
Check out the South-Central Texas VCA get together this coming Saturday in Austin -- see the regional forums.

We'll have several folks there who can take a peek at it. We'll also be dynoing.

AGREED! Bring it o Saturday and let's take a look at it...email or call me before then though so i can put you on the list!

V10BAT · Dec 11, 2008

Hi
until you get an alignment,you just cant be sure the settings are resonable.
this is on my 04.white knuckle ride for sure.
the car drives real smooth now.
i did have new run flates on before the alignment.
at least they can check all bolts as well at the same time.
cheers

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Leslie · Dec 11, 2008

wow impressive.

it just amazes me how well Viper guys know their cars, and if they don't they find out.

V10BAT said:
Hi
until you get an alignment,you just cant be sure the settings are resonable.
this is on my 04.white knuckle ride for sure.
the car drives real smooth now.
i did have new run flates on before the alignment.
at least they can check all bolts as well at the same time.
cheers

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