MOPAR ECU did not dyno well, lost 12wtq/gain 5whp - Graph inside

X-Metal

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guys i have owned and operated two dynos for 17 yrs. it kills me when guys say their car lost 10 hp later days later. it could be just 10 minutes later if the car was off the dyno and reinstalled, things can and will be different.
never ever are two different dyno runs going to exactly match up on different days. it can be close but more often than not the numbers can be different.
nothing is ever the 'exact' same. the straps holding the car down affect the ouput. you will never get the straps to pull the same tension, air pressure, oxygen/air qaulity content,exact position of tires on the drum, tire tempatures, oil temps,fuel specific gravity from one fill up to the next, humidity, the dyno drums bearing temps, the glazing on a flywheel to allow the clutch to bite, barometric pressure, **** the moons gravatational pull! :)

to compare apples to apples you use a dyno to evaluate something (s) on the same day within a short window of time so you can qauntify data back to back and 'try to' eliminate all variables.
it is just a tool, not an absolute. it helps you get a direction to head towards. its like reading your cars blood pressure to make sure its within an accetable window of operation.
you check AFR's and power curves and make sure they are as close and can be
top fuel cars dont tune on a dyno----its the et and mph that tell the tale, because to many things can change and affect each run. and guess what, top fuel guys are UBER consistant and **** changes, because even for million dollar race cars, no two runs are ever the same. engines are a lot like living creatures that constantly change and perform differently based on ever changing variables in the world around them
 
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I had my Mopar ECU and Belanger headers/exhaust installed on my 09 ACR prior to picking it up. I have heard a lot about the deceleration pop, so I installed my factory ECM today and took it for a drive. I have to say that I don't notice much difference while driving around town, except for that addicting popping sound when I decelerate and downshift as I approach stop lights! I was like a kid with a new toy today, and found as much enjoyment in slowing down as I have found in accelerating. Who would have known??? Anyway... if I find the time to get my car to the track, I'll re-install the Mopar ECU. But, in the meantime, I'm having fun with the new popping sound!
 

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guys i have owned and operated two dynos for 17 yrs. it kills me when guys say their car lost 10 hp later days later. it could be just 10 minutes later if the car was off the dyno and reinstalled, things can and will be different.
never ever are two different dyno runs going to exactly match up on different days. it can be close but more often than not the numbers can be different.
nothing is ever the 'exact' same. the straps holding the car down affect the ouput. you will never get the straps to pull the same tension, air pressure, oxygen/air qaulity content,exact position of tires on the drum, tire tempatures, oil temps,fuel specific gravity from one fill up to the next, humidity, the dyno drums bearing temps, the glazing on a flywheel to allow the clutch to bite, barometric pressure, **** the moons gravatational pull! :)

to compare apples to apples you use a dyno to evaluate something (s) on the same day within a short window of time so you can qauntify data back to back and 'try to' eliminate all variables.
it is just a tool, not an absolute. it helps you get a direction to head towards. its like reading your cars blood pressure to make sure its within an accetable window of operation.
you check AFR's and power curves and make sure they are as close and can be
top fuel cars dont tune on a dyno----its the et and mph that tell the tale, because to many things can change and affect each run. and guess what, top fuel guys are UBER consistant and **** changes, because even for million dollar race cars, no two runs are ever the same. engines are a lot like living creatures that constantly change and perform differently based on ever changing variables in the world around them

Funny, I've never heard anyone say this in any of the threads reporting hp gains from the controller.
 

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I agree that it seems odd that you lost some HP/TQ in going to the controller and what were you hoping to gain by going to the controller?

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2008 - 2010 Viper Race Engine Controller - P5155254AB

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Designed for race only applications on the 2008-2010 Viper, the Stage I Engine Controller has modified
spark and fuel tables which function when "power adders" like headers, cat-back exhaust, aftermarket cams and cold air intake systems are used. The computer senses the additional air flow and will compensate with appropriate fuel and spark to maximize performance.
Features:
* Power adders can be used without turning on dash warning lights. Catalysts and O2 sensors can be removed without tripping warning lights or causing limp mode to activate
* Chassis dyno results showed a slight HP gain (approx 10 hp) on a stock ACR but the intent of this controller is to work with power adders to maximize performance
* The revised fuel/spark tables are intended for power levels below 700 hp. This controller is not intended for use with nitrous, superchargers, or packages that go above 700 hp. It might work depending on your setup, but it wasn't designed to function in that range
* The 1-4 skip shift feature in the production calibration has been eliminated
* Requires the use of 93 octane fuel only
* The rev limit has been increased from 6400 rpm to 6500 rpm
* Tachometer settings have been adjusted for updates every 25 RPM (vs. every
100 RPM)
* Increases engine idle speed from 700 rpm to 750 rpm
* The ETC pedal / throttle MAP has been refined which improves pedal feel
* Tested using rear axle ratios between 3.07:1 to 4.10:1
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This device is not legal for use on pollution-controlled vehicles certified for use on streets or highways. Once this device is installed, use of the vehicle on a street or highway is a violation of the Clean Air Act, potentially subjecting the operator and the installer to civil penalties of up to $32,500 per vehicle depending on the circumstances.
Mopar Part #: P5155254AB
NOTE: While not showing in the Performance Catalog, Mopar has been shipping Part # P5155255AB as an update to this same part number. Actual photo of recently shipped unit shown.
*BRAND NEW*
Ships in 7-14 days.
 

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