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    need help with clear bra

    Yep and hopefully it will be covering some HIGH BEAMS
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    Our Viper arrived at Woodhouse

    I have a VR coupe ordered. It was in "I" status about 2 weeks ago and obviously yet to be delivered. While I don't know what body type or options Vincy above ordered, I can tell you that there were delays for Vipers ordered with two tone interiors; orders with the Graphite or Arc bezels...
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    E10 Ethanol Blend and Engine Performance . . .

    Rich....while the octane rating is higher for ethanol the bad news is you get less power with all else the same. Octane is not an indication of "power" available form the fuel. In simple terms, octane ratings give you an indication as to the tendency of a fuel to pre-ignite under load which...
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    E10 Ethanol Blend and Engine Performance . . .

    Actually ethanol is an octane BOOSTER. One of the very few benefits of ethanol is that it has a higher octane rating than gas. Its not the octane of ethanol that causes the lower mileage. The problem is that ethanol contains less BTU's per gallon than a gallon of gas. Less available energy...
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    Next Gen Viper scrapped? Current Gen to be built to 2011

    Chuck...ethanol gas (your Iowa corn mash) gets LESS mileage than gasoline. A gallon of ethanol has LESS BTU's than a gallon of gasoline. The higher the percenatge of ethanol used with gasoline (the most common is E85) the LOWER your mileage will be. The following is from a Business Week...
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    Why Are Most of The 2008 Viper's For Sale Almost All Venom Red?

    First let me begin by stating up front that I have on order an 08 Venom Red Coupe (I Status). According to two dealers I spoke with, VR has been ordered just as much as SSG, if not MORE. Remember that only 3 colors (SSG; VR; Blue) are being offered first. And as posted here in seversal threads...
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    Viper Owner? Please read!!!

    Another John Hancock....
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    Next Gen Viper scrapped? Current Gen to be built to 2011

    The Test of Three. Keep this philosophy in mind the next time you hear or are about to repeat a rumor. In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates (I am talking about the real one, not the poster above who uses this name as luck would have it) was widely lauded for his wisdom. One day the...
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    08 Vipers sales seem to be slow....

    Yep, DRBob has it right. I ordered a Venom Red coupe in June. It was delayed because of the two tone interior, then the Arc bezel and finally problems with parts supplied for the hatch. It is finally in D-1 with a build date of 2/7. Probably one of the last VR coupes to be built, someone on...
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    Slate interior, not sure on the console

    Thanks Wallbanger....Rich, I will try to post picturs when the car comes in. I am being told early March, build date is 2/7. Those mats look great, in fact toooo good--no shoes in the car!! I too have the Protection Group (mats & cover) as an option.
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    Slate interior, not sure on the console

    Hey Wallbanger...thanks for the photo, I have a Venom Red Coupe on order (finally D-1) with the two tone slate (and Arc Bezel). Like someone above mentioned, I was looking for some contrast. Looking at your picture the color of the drivers' door panel and comparing it to the center console it...
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    How many 08s will be produced?

    Smog Dog has it right. I was told by my dealer that the Coupe models recently had a delay due to issues with hatch part(s) (wasn't told what part or parts specfically)that a vendor was producing and were not up to spec. Vipers are not built in VIN sequence (VIN 250 can get built before VIN...
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    Let's see more 2008 Interior Pics

    Yep, if you ordered the optional bezels (in either color) you have to wait. The original supplier of these bezels went bankrupt and a new vendor found and certified. I was given the choice of dropping the option by my dealer if I did not want to wait but instead decided to keep it (arc light)...
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    Friend got his new Vette today

    I agree black mamba. That is the exact problem, they may not care if they turn off the faithful here. Is Cerebus concerned with the Viper faithful and the 2000-3000 sales a year or are they looking to maybe 20,000-30,000 sales? If they are $$$$ hungry the answer may not be want we want.
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    Friend got his new Vette today

    That is just it Warfang. You say "the viper is never about making a profit..at least a huge one". We do not know what mind set Cerebus has about what profit it expects of the Viper from this point on. Just because DC viewed the Viper in a certain way in the past does not guarantee that is the...
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    Friend got his new Vette today

    I think Snakester brings up a VERY interesting point. Take what he says and add in the concerns we have about the continuation of the Viper. There is surely some uncertainty about the future with Cerebus running the show. As all here know, the purpose of an equity company is to increase the...
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    2008 Blue/White Coupe hits the Street

    I think that Blue/Black interior REALLY looks GOOD, she is a beauty for sure.
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    '08 Coupe $2500 off MSRP

    Hey thanks Smog Dog. I would have thought more SSG were ordered than the VR with all the posts that SSG got here. It is VERY difficult to order a car in a color you have not seen in person.
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    '08 Coupe $2500 off MSRP

    Ryan94....guess you and I are in the minority here. I too like the Venom Red and that is what I ordered my coupe in as well.
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    ACR's available for immediate ordering!

    Aspirations....if your Viper has not already been built the increase will be tacked on. My dealer called last week to give me some good news and some bad. My order went to D status and a VIN assigned. The order info also showed that MSRP on the coupe went up to $85210. This is a very recent...
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    ACR's available for immediate ordering!

    The MSRP has very recently gone UP by $1115. MSRP for a coupe is now $85,210, it was $84,095. So the savings from the lower gas guzzler tax (1700 for the 08 vs the 06 3000) has been just about wiped out now.
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    ACR's available for immediate ordering!

    I guess it IS true that the MSRP has gone up. I was called by my dealer a few days ago on this. MSRP was $84,095 (and still listed as such on drivesrt) and now it is up to $85,210 (as mentioned by Chris) before adding in destination and gas guzzler.
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    What is BG status on a new order?

    Yep...the arc and graphite console options are holding up Vipers ordered with them. It gets worse if I am to believe the info received. The original outside supplier of these parts is not just behind schedule but it went bankrupt. Dodge is suposedly in the process of getting another vendor...
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    We made the first cut for the Cerebus Team

    They announced that the Dodge Magnum, PT Vert, Pacifica, and Crossfire are done.
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    2008 Accessories in brochure

    EXACTLY....Nsane1 had the same reaction as me, where do I sign up for some these other options? It is also the first I am hearing of them. Have an 08 on order but I can still make changes to it. Can any members here that are "In the Know" provide some info? Availability? Pricing?

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