New owner of 2002 ACR

doctormosfet

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New Viper owner here. Half of me is very excited. The other half feels like the new guy in prison who just dropped the soap. It's a lot of car for someone whose only experience with the Viper to-date is through Gran Turismo. I've tried to do my research before buying this car and, between this forum and several YouTube channels, there is a surprising wealth of information on how to care for this little devil. So a big thank you to those who put the time into generating content for other Viper owners or would-be buyers trying to learn.

My daily driver to-date has been a 2010 Lexus IS350. Not exactly a slow car, but much easier to drive and certainly pedestrian compared to the Viper. It will take some time to get used to this car and I don't intend to rush it. Track time would be great, but with two small kids that will be hard to manage.

I found this example from a dealer in Colorado (Selten). I couldn't fly out there to inspect it, so basically had to go off of pictures only and back-and-forth discussion with the dealer. Overall, it was a very good buying experience, sans of course the hole in my wallet. Plenty of mods on this car (Greg Good cylinder heads, COMP camshafts, ported intake manifold, later-model roller rockers, Roe Racing triple-pass aluminum radiator, Belanger headers & exhaust, The Viper Store cold-air intake, underdrive pulley, black-finished 19″ CCW wheels, BC Racing coilovers) and I especially appreciate the 19" rims where it's actually possible to get tires for in this universe. I've tried to do some research to understand what the cams, cylinder heads, exhaust, and ported intake are likely worth in terms of power, but I suppose the only true test is to put it on a dyno. Any guesses? One thing is for sure, though, with that camshaft it sounds EVIL.

This has a cat-less exhaust and so my first step will be to install high-flow cats. Then I can actually get it inspected and registered for NY. I just ordered the cats from Belanger and I have to say they are very nice/friendly to deal with. Two thumbs up for them.

In time, I would like to upgrade the power steering pulley and bracket, as well as modify the power steering cap (I saw a thread about routing a catch can from it...good idea) and eventually upgrade the water pump. No need for power mods as it has more than enough already. Just looking for little things to make it more reliable. Maybe also get the IPSCO swaybar cap/bushing set. One step at a time...

One thing that has surprised me is the shifter effort. Prior owner put a short throw on it, so maybe that makes it worse as you have less leverage, but you definitely need some right arm muscle. Going into reverse is especially trying, even after going to first and then shifting over to reverse. The 5th to 6th transition is also...interesting. 6th is not straight down, but more like down and to the right. If you're not careful, you can end up back in 4th. Until I can get used to that, probaby best to just avoid 6th altogether as it's a very tall gear anyway, even at highway speed.
 

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Congratulations on your new ride!! Getting a tastefully modded gen 2 GTS is the way to go.
 
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Thanks! Yes, it is certainly convenient to already have these mods installed. I wasn't necessarily looking for it to be that way, but when the opportunity arrives...well...YOLO.
 

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Congrats on your new-for-you Viper. I have a 2002 RT/10 and even without the short throw shifter, reverse is tricky for me, too. I usually end up in fifth and then find reverse from there. Get ready for the thumbs up from other cars, fan photos, etc. It's a great car to own...timeless.
 
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Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the experience!

I'm thinking some of the shifter effort could be due to the transmission fluid. I'm not sure if this has the factory fluid or not, but there was a thread about certain fluids needing to warm up before shifter effort became easy, while other fluids result in less shifter effort at lower temperatures. I guess I'll find out when I get around to driving it.
 

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Congrats on your purchase! Those heads, cam and headers should add about a 100 to 125 hp. GG is arguably the best viper head porter. I'd guess your around 600hp at the flywheel, 525 rwhp.

Vipers don't shift like a Honda, especially Gen 1 and Gen 2 versions. Short throw kit reduces travel and makes it a little easier to shift but it still won't make it like a Miata. Try to drain and fill, who knows how old your fluid is? You may see/feel some incremental improvement.

BTW, did the sale include the stock BBS wheels? They are getting pricer in the used market and if you go to sell your ACR down the road not having them will negative impact the price. Best wishes and enjoy!! Mike
 
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Congrats on your purchase! Those heads, cam and headers should add about a 100 to 125 hp. GG is arguably the best viper head porter. I'd guess your around 600hp at the flywheel, 525 rwhp.

Vipers don't shift like a Honda, especially Gen 1 and Gen 2 versions. Short throw kit reduces travel and makes it a little easier to shift but it still won't make it like a Miata. Try to drain and fill, who knows how old your fluid is? You may see/feel some incremental improvement.

BTW, did the sale include the stock BBS wheels? They are getting pricer in the used market and if you go to sell your ACR down the road not having them will negative impact the price. Best wishes and enjoy!! Mike
Thanks! I was thinking I'd be somewhere in the 600hp range based on some material I've found in these forums, so it's good to know I wasn't far off ;) I'm glad I got the car with these components already installed. Saves a ton of time and money. All things considered, I think I got a pretty good deal on this.

I do not know how old the fluid is. That's a good point. I did have the coolant and brake fluid flushed, so I know that stuff is new. Apparently, certain fluids make it harder to shift before the gearbox is warmed up while others result in lower effort? I remember seeing a thread about that. I'll have to look that up again and probably switch to the other fluid (ATF-4?) if it doesn't cause other issues.

This car also included the stock BBS wheels on the side (not shown in the pictures), with the Viper wheel caps. The wheels were coated in black, so technically not in original condition, but I am aware of their rarity and maybe I'll mount some extra tires on them eventually if I can find any in that size. I'm pretty sure it's easier to get racing slicks in that size than road tires in that size, so if I ever track the car, then those rims would come in quite handy. For now, they are safely tucked away.
 

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Finding tires in your ACR/BBS wheel sizes shouldn't be hard. The 17" wheels are the ones that usually have more difficulty, but the ACR 18" wheels have a few good options.
 

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