Question for those who track there car often

Early93Viper

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I tracked my car 4 times this year and my goal is at least 8 events next year. I have had a blast and my Viper has held up great. But I am hooked now and have some questions:


1. I realize tracking your car is very ******* it. What is MOST LIKELY to brake on my car from tracking it?

2. I have decided to change my fluids more regularly and try to go over my car as much as possible and tighten every bolt I can find. Is there a check sheet or something for tightening parts?

3. Is there parts I should watch more than others?

4. Is there any other advice you can give me?

Thank you, :2tu:
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1. Engine problems, due to oiling issues. Make sure you have all the tricks for good oiling, trap doors, modified windage tray, ACR filter adapter, Accusump.

2. I don't think so, ask your Viper tech. I had them tighten everything that could be tightened.

3. Power steering cap, tighten frequently. P.S. fluid on the exhaust can ignite your car in seconds. Change to DOT4. Redline resists foaming.

4. Reccomend using Mobil 1 15-50, Motul DOT4 brake fluid, bleed calipers about every event to remove burnt fluid. Brakeman 3 pads worked well for me. You need to cool your brakes, get at least the Porsche deflectors, better yet, get some air duct from NAPA or simular, and make your own brake cooling ducts. You can cable tie them to direct air to the center of the rotors. The bottom lip of the front fascia is a high pressure area, I've seen people make cut outs for the inlet, or even the fog light recesses, but this alters the looks of the car negatively, imo. Drain your tranny and rear axle often. Be aware thaty if you track it, it will either wear out or break. I mean, hey, even dedicated racing cars break, and they were designed for the track, so its no surprise if a street car breaks from hard tracking.

The repair cost for hitting a wall averages like $30,000, or some astronomical figure like that. I've seen a few local track rats total their GTS's on track, and thats a sad day indeed. I decided that I wasn't going to track my Viper anymore, and have been looking for lower cost options, such as DSR/CSR racers, used Trans-Am racers, kit cars, (don't laugh, some of them can turn 28's at Willow), and I finally decided to get a used C5 ZO6.

1. If I hit a wall, the repair cost is only a fraction of what it would be on the Viper, because Chevy built so many of them, there are a ton of parts out there, and the economies of scale provide reasonable prices. Hell, even if I total it, I'm only out like $28,000, less than the cost of the average Viper repair. Can't lose with those numbers.

2. I don't need a trailer to get it to the track, as you would with a spec racer, I can just drive it there.

3. Don't need a special place to park the trailer or store the car. I can just park it on the street.

4. Being a "lowly" ZO6, I wouldn't have to worry about it so much, wouldn't have to worry about scratching it, trading paint with some yahoo from Pacoima in his souped up Civic with something to prove. I wouldn't even think about the cost of the car when braking late for a high speed turn. This would give me more confidence. Plus, the track sand blasts your paint, and your windshield. After a few years on public roads, your car will get trashed anyway, but, Sticky tires that people run at the track throw up more pebbles and sand, and this accelerates the sand blasting effect.

5. I can keep the GTS in a nice condition. There aren't too many of them left, with an initial production of about 6000, and after an attrition rate of like 30%, there must not be more than 5000 of them in existence. Thats not exactly a car you want to trash on the track.

Have you ever noticed that a lot of racers are quite wealthy? In Speed World Challenge GT, Wiens is a banker, Woodhouse owns dealerships, Giolatti sells car parts, etc, etc. PMUM was also very well off, and had a stable of sports cars, not just one like me. Well, I don't have unlimited funds to spend, so I think about the costs, and this subtracts from the all-out desire to push the car to its limits. All these factors is what has led me to look for a lower cost option, and eventually led me to beleive that a used ZO6 would be just the ticket.
 

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I've been doing 8-12 events a year for six years. Last year 5th gear went out. Other than that, nothing major. Vipers are the most bulletproof track durable street legal car built.

Change fluids often. Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you. It takes me two days to prep my car for each event.

Brakes are your most important part. Inspect them and keep spares handy. Fluid, pads, rotors, rings.
 

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I've lost 2nd gear and eventually some synchros were pretty shot. Two rebuilds after ~80,000 miles.

Brakes are not matched front to rear - but there is a fix (besides the 40mm rears, of course.) Look up a brake recirculation valve - it'll solve 99% of your brake fluid overheating because it circulates the fluid.

http://vca2.viperclub.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB14&Number=340370&Forum=UBB14&Words=brake%20fluid%20recirculation&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=340370&Search=true#Post340370

Here's some more help:
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I track my '97 GTS once or twice a month, and how much stress you will place on the car depends upon what tires/speeds you run. For street tires, simple pad upgrades, along with good brake fluid and a good suspension is pretty much all you need. Make sure your shocks/springs are up to the task, and also check all your bushings/dust boots to make sure they are in good shape (especially the ball joints and sway bar end links). If you upgrade to R-comps, hoosiers, or true slicks you will be putting a lot more stress on the suspension and brakes, so I would recommend a caliper/rotor upgrade in both front and rear with a brake bias at minimum. I wouldn't run R-comps or slicks on stock brake components. Since I started running true slicks, I eat through rotors and pads, and I have wilwood 6 piston calipers in front with 12.75" rotors (4 piston 12.5" rears). The added speeds/g's makes it well-worth it, however!!!

The aforementioned power steering lid mod is a must to prevent a completely avoidable fire. If you run in high-temp regions, an upgraded radiator with a 50/50 mix (or less) of coolant and distilled water is helpful (my Viper still runs 240+ temps in the Texas summer at the track). A roll bar with harnesses is also a must once you start gaining speed. I would change your oil and bleed the brakes after every race, and change your plugs at least once every couple months. Inspect your suspension and wheel hubs frequently. If you decide to run slicks eventually, you should also add a dif cooler- pretty easy to overheat the dif and blow the seals once you start carrying a lot of speed. Good luck, and enjoy!
 

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I had a Gen 1 that was raced extensivily. Nothing ever happend to my car except the normal wear & tear. Rotors, Pads, rebuild calipers each season. In 10K miles of racing i only changed a brake sensor.
 

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Lots of good advise above, I’ll track my car 8-15 times a year. I love driving at speeds on a race track but not so much that I want to invest the time and money into a full blown track car. I love the fact that I can drive my street car to a race track have a blast honing my own skills and then drive my beautiful Viper back Home. That’s my bag :)
I have never had anything break at the track, I’ve just worn out tires, brake pads and boiled the brake fluid and I don’t track my car anymore when the temperatures get to high. The car gets too hot and never really cools back down. I try to always shift in the 5000rpm range so not to heat the car up unnecessarily. Raise the hood immediately after coming off the track to let the heat out of the engine compartment and always check the caps and fluids. Of course fresh brake fluid before each event and a full tech inspection.

The Viper will hold it’s own with the best of them but you don’t want to swap paint with a 93 Viper, so enjoy it to the extent of the ware and tear your willing to do to it.
 
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Thanks for all the advice

The Viper will hold it’s own with the best of them

I have also noticed this.
The torque will shoot you out of the corners, it handles great, the HP will eat other cars in the straights, etc., etc. My car just amazes me.

The viper is just an incredible track car. Especially since I adjusted the shocks, got Tom's brake upgrade, and Kumhos they all make a hell of a difference.
 

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I agree with "early 93" there are not to many stock cars at any price that will keep up on the track.
 
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