The economy and your Viper plans

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If things don't get too much worse (I'm a contractor) I'll be able to survive the down turn, But in the toy department of life I'm a wreck...I've got 8 lease payments left on an 05 copperhead---I can buy it for 38-or-do I low ball them (I think I can)--or do I walk and be a buyer in this #@%^*& market...How do I decide weather or not to get an extended warrantee not knowing if I'm going to keep the car ..The economy has screwed up my car world :confused:
 

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good part is with a lease you can just turn it in and walk away...right?

you are in a good position the way I see it...there are people with Viper pmts now that can't make them.

you could turn it in then decide if you want to get a good deal on another Viper.

just a thought.
 

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This economy has screwed up all my worlds.

On a positive note I was at the AC car auction yesterday and saw a few Vipers that sold for very good prices. Prices seemed strong for a lot of cars and a lot of sold signs.

I also saw the #36 VOI 10 car that looks just like the #1 one I will be winning on 5/15 and it is a very sharp color combo. Not thrilled with the black wheels but I suspect they will grow on me once the cars in my garage. They need polished lips.
 

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How many miles are on the car?

If your interested in buying out the residual and selling it to make a few bucks let me know. A copperhead wasn't on my short list of cars to buy but I would be willing to make an exception if the price is right.
 
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18 k, car is perfect, But who the hell knows what the world will be like in 8 monthes..:dunno:...Dave
 

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Im not exactly in the same situation, But I bought and imported my Gen 2 GTS over to the uk about 11 months ago.

I drained every bank account I had to get the car and also borrowed extra cash! Then the world went mad! I never saw the recession comming and am still paying off the car :( Hopefully by the end of this year things will be a bit better :drive:

At the moment I cant drive the car as much as I would like to due to the Gas prices and general running costs. But I will not sell it :nono:
 

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Buy it for 38 and sell for 48.


you're smokin crack :smokin::smokin: I don't like talking down our beloved car, but there is no way he will sell an 05 (unless perfect with less than 5000 miles) for anywhere north of $45K. Just a month ago, I saw one sell for $38 and C-Note picked up a S/C 05 Copperhead for $44K

If you can get the car for $35K or less, I say go for it. Otherwise, unless you're in love with the car, walk and find a better. :drive:
 

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18 k, car is perfect, But who the hell knows what the world will be like in 8 monthes..:dunno:...Dave

Yeah, I hear ya there. All of the laws and fed. regulations that govern my work are changing this year and it's hard to say what things will be like a year from now. Barry has changed the way our economy functions and today he announced efforts to change things in Europe. A year from now the taxes on the producers in this country will be much greater than ever:mad:. I'll be ok but I can guarantee that I will not have half of my employees a year from now. Lean and mean will be the only way to get ahead.
 

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Don't get me started... I can feel my bloodpressure rising just thinking about where things are about to go. Our only real hope is if enough Democrats wake up from their honeymoon and realize they just married someone who wrote a bunch of fraudulent vows. How in the heck phasing out mortgage and charitable deductions, getting rid of farming subsidies for the most productive farms, forcing banks to modify mortgages for people who should have been renters in the first place (and thereby forcing banks to raise rates for the rest of us), and increasing taxes for the group of wage earners who already pay more than 90% of the nation's taxes is supposed to stimulate the nation? I feel stimulated to stop working myself to death, stop paying my bills, and stick my hand out for a piece of the bailout Obamanation. Is that the way to get things going? Reward non-productivity and penalize the ones who work the hardest so that wealth can be 'redistributed' to those who made bad decisions?

I am blessed to have a job where we're backlogged with work. I'd absolutely LOVE to hire a few more people to take care of business, but instead my employees and I are so freaked out at where things are going that we'd rather work double time to build up a cash reserve than increase headcount and burn rate. I've talked to other business owners and executives, and this is getting to be a common scenario. No, my friends, this is NOT the way to stimulate the economy.
 

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don't get an extended wty...Vipers are too cheap to fix....ain't no Porsche....

btw...things are going to get worse...here's hoping we can all survive this:crazy2:



If things don't get too much worse (I'm a contractor) I'll be able to survive the down turn, But in the toy department of life I'm a wreck...I've got 8 lease payments left on an 05 copperhead---I can buy it for 38-or-do I low ball them (I think I can)--or do I walk and be a buyer in this #@%^*& market...How do I decide weather or not to get an extended warrantee not knowing if I'm going to keep the car ..The economy has screwed up my car world :confused:
 
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As someone who's been self employed his hole life, I'm no democrat--But i sure as hell am not going to blame this nightmare on Obama....This thread is about Vipers and the economy...If it gets into politics we should move on.
 

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Don't get me started... I can feel my bloodpressure rising just thinking about where things are about to go. Our only real hope is if enough Democrats wake up from their honeymoon and realize they just married someone who wrote a bunch of fraudulent vows. How in the heck phasing out mortgage and charitable deductions, getting rid of farming subsidies for the most productive farms, forcing banks to modify mortgages for people who should have been renters in the first place (and thereby forcing banks to raise rates for the rest of us), and increasing taxes for the group of wage earners who already pay more than 90% of the nation's taxes is supposed to stimulate the nation? I feel stimulated to stop working myself to death, stop paying my bills, and stick my hand out for a piece of the bailout Obamanation. Is that the way to get things going? Reward non-productivity and penalize the ones who work the hardest so that wealth can be 'redistributed' to those who made bad decisions?

I am blessed to have a job where we're backlogged with work. I'd absolutely LOVE to hire a few more people to take care of business, but instead my employees and I are so freaked out at where things are going that we'd rather work double time to build up a cash reserve than increase headcount and burn rate. I've talked to other business owners and executives, and this is getting to be a common scenario. No, my friends, this is NOT the way to stimulate the economy.

:sinking: Good post
 

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Well spoken our obomination is going down the tubes unless we all wake up and protest this crazy spending spree. It will take my work ethic away Im going to cut back my hours in my dental practice so I dont contribute to our crazy presidents socialist dream. Maybe Mr Oboma will buy us all Vipers !
 

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As someone who's been self employed his hole life, I'm no democrat--But i sure as hell am not going to blame this nightmare on Obama....This thread is about Vipers and the economy...If it gets into politics we should move on.

You're right, the nightmare is not Obama's fault - nobody in his right mind would blame it on him. But it is what it is - a nightmare. We'll all wake up from it. What we wake up to WILL be affected by Obama's policies. Now, will we wake up to brilliant sunshine of prosperity like we had at one time, or will we wake up to Dawn of the Dead? That's the $3,750,000,000,000 question.

BTW - it's really not a Democrat vs. Republican thing. But, lets hope enough of the controlling Dems cross party lines in voting sessions related to where things are headed. That takes guts, and I know we have some very good people in elected offices that will look out for the better good of their constituents.
 
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I also saw the #36 VOI 10 car that looks just like the #1 one I will be winning on 5/15 and it is a very sharp color combo. Not thrilled with the black wheels but I suspect they will grow on me once the cars in my garage. They need polished lips.

Good luck to you! It will look good in anyone's garage.:D
 

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If things don't get too much worse (I'm a contractor) I'll be able to survive the down turn, But in the toy department of life I'm a wreck...I've got 8 lease payments left on an 05 copperhead---I can buy it for 38-or-do I low ball them (I think I can)--or do I walk and be a buyer in this #@%^*& market...How do I decide weather or not to get an extended warrantee not knowing if I'm going to keep the car ..The economy has screwed up my car world :confused:

A $38K buyout is not bad at all but I would assume that if the buyout is that low, you had pretty high payments. Either way it all depends on if you like the car. If you take the fact of just buying the car out, at $38K, I do not see you loosing any of that money if the car remains clean and does not obtain a insaine amount of miles.

I would say that if you really like the car, low ball the finance company and see what happens. What is the worst they can say? No? If they say no, oh well, you come to terms on a buyout price or walk away and get something new. The purchasing market is great right now!

As for the extended warranty, you can purchase the contract and if you decide to sell the car before it expires you can transfer it to the new owner or transfer it to yourself and get the prorated amount back in cold hard cash for the unused portion.
 
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You can cash them out ?...............by the way 0 down 850 mo. +tax 3 years ....I could write a book on how to lease a car.....or least I could before the era of credit default options :crazy2:
 

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I would just buy it out, if I was you. Copperheads are always going to be in demand. You know where the car has been since day one. THAT IS worth something too. There are a lot of crap Vipers out there with a lot of stories. You want to buy too low on used and you roll the dice.

$38 for you car buy out is respectible. Try to low ball them, but then if they just don't move, then accept it and buy it. My thoughts are I would only low ball them within reason. $35K sure, but lower than that and it does NOT reflect reality.

Wish you the best!
 
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Thanks Colorado....FYI...I picked the car up with a couple k on it during it's first year in service.....I trust that the previous owner did not pass gas on the driver seat.
 
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I think with car values tanking.. Banks are looking at lease returns (Hello SUV's)as toxic and will accept a resonable downward pay-off
 

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offer them 31k and see what they say,if you really love the car,buy it,if not walk away, you had your fun with it.
 

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Offer low 30's as mentioned but no matter what.. i think 38 grand for an 18K mile example is one hell of a good deal.

I say buy!

JMO

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Let it go, it sounds like you need the cash right now. Get your priorities straight! You can always get a smokin deal on a Viper...get back on your feet first, and take care of your family. JMHO.
 

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You're right, the nightmare is not Obama's fault - nobody in his right mind would blame it on him. But it is what it is - a nightmare. We'll all wake up from it. What we wake up to WILL be affected by Obama's policies. Now, will we wake up to brilliant sunshine of prosperity like we had at one time, or will we wake up to Dawn of the Dead? That's the $3,750,000,000,000 question.

BTW - it's really not a Democrat vs. Republican thing. But, lets hope enough of the controlling Dems cross party lines in voting sessions related to where things are headed. That takes guts, and I know we have some very good people in elected offices that will look out for the better good of their constituents.



Well I'll blame it on him, Emperor Obama, and you can say I'm not in my right mind and I won't take any offense. Being in one's right mind is not all that it's cracked up to be.

I have read a number of books on economic bubbles and consequent market crashes. There are two common elements to the crashes :

1) When the free money is over.
2) When the government tries to fix it.

We have both occurring now. Obama is looting the national treasury and giving it to those he owes political favors to who got him into power. That's how politics works, plain and simple. Forget all the feel good idealism and kumbaya crap.The Repubs do the same thing, what sense does it make to leave anything in the national vault for your politcal enemies. At the end of Bush's reign he couldn't give it away fast enough.

I think all politicians are crooks--some are bigger than others though--that's why I'm an anarchist.
 

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