Any differences between 2008 & 2009 ACRs?

[SoCal Rebell]

Are there any advantages to the '09 over the '08 ACRs? Any differences at all aside from the year? Thanks.

Ron

 

[johniew398]

Someone with an 09 please reply as I am curious to if they changed anything.

 

[adamlotus]

should be the same car just diffrent colors

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

I heard the 09 was slightly heavier by about 20lbs or so. I think it had something to do with newer safety regulation BS.

 

[Paul Hawker]

Believe the computer and throttle response with the drive by wire is improved in the 09's. Weight gain is under 10 lbs for strengthening of frame for crash damage prevention.

Most will install the Mopar computer so the drive by wire will be optimized for the track anyways, so basically little difference.

 

[dtenney]

See thread below - SRT Engineers answered the question:
http://forums.viperclub.org/srt-engineering-q-area/622035-2008-vs-2009-a.html

 

[SoCal Rebell]

See thread below - SRT Engineers answered the question:
http://forums.viperclub.org/srt-engineering-q-area/622035-2008-vs-2009-a.html

Thanks Tenney, I'm more concerned with differences on a road course at 10/10ths. I heard about the rear being reinforced but that's it.

 

[08ACRVTEN00GTS]

Yes, 2008 black with red drivers side stripe is by far the quickest color

 

[Boxer12]

If you can save $20k on an '08, you will have more money in the budget for track fees and mods!

 

[SoCal Rebell]

Yes, 2008 black with red drivers side stripe is by far the quickest color

LOL, funny you should mention that. Here's a vid of me at Willow Springs with NASA in HPDE 4, I also spent a weekend with the ACR at Viperdays, the car is absolutely incredible. Completely stock without so much as a track alighment and worn tires I turned a 1:31 flat. A little tweaking and 1:28's or better are in it

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkX0ldchos[/media]

 

[SoCal Rebell]

If you can save $20k on an '08, you will have more money in the budget for track fees and mods!

Some deals are starting to pop up on used 2008 ACRs, that's the reason I ask. The '08 I drove was perfect, I was wondering if the '09 improved on it. I wore out the Pilot Cups in 4 track days and hadda buy a new set from Archer at VD, on the cheap at $1,550 per set.

 

[08ACRVTEN00GTS]

Nice run Rebell, I think we are a little lighter than the 09's - black/red rules.

 

[pe5787]

Some deals are starting to pop up on used 2008 ACRs, that's the reason I ask. The '08 I drove was perfect, I was wondering if the '09 improved on it. I wore out the Pilot Cups in 4 track days and hadda buy a new set from Archer at VD, on the cheap at $1,550 per set.

Thats a great price. The Cups do burn fast. Im getting another set of sidewinders to put Hoosier tires on for the track. In the long run it will be cheaper than replacing the cups three times a season.

 

[dtenney]

Thanks Tenney, I'm more concerned with differences on a road course at 10/10ths. I heard about the rear being reinforced but that's it.

I think the small variance between cars may be almost as significant as the year model differences. I have an 09 ACR and have two friends that have 08 ACR's, but there are too many variables to say if one year model is faster on track than the other. I would say a used 08 that is already broken in would be faster at first than a new 09. I personally do not think 9 lbs of sprung weight(weight added to 09) is that big of a deal and mostly likely variances in motors and chassis setup will more than makeup the difference. To my knowledge the rear reinforcement is just a new bracket surrounding the fuel fill line for crash protection. However, from an investment perspective the 09 possibly being the last year for the "Dodge Viper" before it become "???? Viper" may have value?
-David

 

[08ACRVTEN00GTS]

I think the 08 would have more value because of the record set at the ring?

 

[dtenney]

I think the 08 would have more value because of the record set at the ring?

Yeah I could see that point as well, 08 ACR will always be the car that set the record, I think color matters as well, so pick the color you like and that will decide what year model you get.

-David

 

[SRTV10]

The last I heard, there was some confusion regarding the colors of the '09 ACRs. What colors did they continue from '08, and which colors were new for the ACR in '09 (besides graphite)?? I know that the snake skin green was never built in the ACR in '09, but I also remember SRT saying that a "Diamond Black" or something along those lines would be introduced. Also, was '08 the only year for the Black ACR with red driver's stripe??

Thanks!

 

[FastZilla]

I have a solid graphite ACR (2009). Since I don't have the black center or ACR stripe so I have saved the 9 additional pounds in weight on the paint

Burn a bit more rubber off the Cups & take a big dump before the race and I'll have the fastest ACR!!!!

 

[SoCal Rebell]

Thats a great price. The Cups do burn fast. Im getting another set of sidewinders to put Hoosier tires on for the track. In the long run it will be cheaper than replacing the cups three times a season.

I've used Hoosiers exclusivly on my last Viper, mostly R3S06s. They are only good for only about 3 track days but only cost about $1,200 a set.

 

[pe5787]

I am going to use the R6 tire and hope to get close to a season of track time out of them and use the cups on the street.

 

[ACR steve]

pe- I hope to see you at Pocono Memorial day weekend for the Venom Cup we need you to help kick NJ,s butt

 

[THEMASH]

I thought i read somewhere that weight difference between 08 and 09 was 40 lbs...

 

[Viper X]

Hey Ron,

Are you going to Viper Days / NARRA next weekend at Buttonwillow? Details are on the So Cal Website at: . : : SoCal Viper : : .

My 09 ACR is here and is just about ready for the track.

I've driven both 08's and 09's and the only real difference I could feel was the throttle response and low end torque. Both felt better in the 2009.

Install the Belangers and the Mopar race controller and the slight tuning improvement of the 09 is gone.

See you at the track,

Dan

 

[rw99]

The last I heard, there was some confusion regarding the colors of the '09 ACRs. What colors did they continue from '08, and which colors were new for the ACR in '09 (besides graphite)?? I know that the snake skin green was never built in the ACR in '09, but I also remember SRT saying that a "Diamond Black" or something along those lines would be introduced. Also, was '08 the only year for the Black ACR with red driver's stripe??

Thanks!

I think you may have meant that there were no SSG ACR's in '08? 2009 production chart shows 30 SSG ACR's, distributed among five different stripe schemes. Most of 'em (19) look like mine.