V10 MOJO
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im completing my latest upgrade heads/cam/intake/TBs/T&Ds. heads are done for future SC/NOS.
opinions on also doing 510 stroker?
opinions on also doing 510 stroker?
510 Stroker
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VIPR GTS
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Wow, you were fast this fall, will you be ready for Florida next month?
Dr Roof
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V10 MOJO
who is doing your work?
who is doing your work?
1TONY1
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MOJO, You gonna be ready for Jdawg to give you another whippin on the track 
Jay Herbert
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Stroker raises some intersting durability questions. Depending on what Tuner you talk to, stroking the V/10 is more than the block can handle. As an example, one tuner (tuning since '92) I talk to regularly will no longer do strokers, not because they do not make lots of power, but because he feels he is not giving his customer a product that will be reliable for the long term.
V10 MOJO
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roof; heads/cam/intake work by greg good.
tony; oh im ready
tony; oh im ready
Martin D
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bzzzzzt Wrong answer Jay. The 510 offset grind on the crank is fine to do. There were some initial longevity issues BUT it was do to improper Piston/Rod selection. The 510 is reliable. Now the 542 - 550 is another question. There may be some long term issues with this set up.
Take this for what it is worth, opinions are like azzholes, and everyone has them.
Regards,
Take this for what it is worth, opinions are like azzholes, and everyone has them.
Regards,
1TONY1
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I drove Jdawgs today......goin to be tough to beat a combo of Heffner/H.M.S/1TONY1 Maybe Jdawg will show in Bradenton for the MODAWG shootout 
1TONY1
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MartinD
p.s. I want sum o that TOP SECRET 512 STROKE YOUR EGO VENOM 10,000R
p.s. I want sum o that TOP SECRET 512 STROKE YOUR EGO VENOM 10,000R
Torquemonster
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I'd have to agree with Martin. I can't see any longevity problems with a 510 provided the hardware was top quality, but lower compression pistons will be needed to keep compression down to 9:1.
joe117
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Can you get the 510 just by grinding offset for the most undersized rod bearing and then getting pistons with a higher pin to bring the piston top back down to the deck?
If that is the case, the only thing I see is the smaller rod journal is going to have a little more pressure per bearing area and a little less strength in the crank due to smaller rod journals.
The compression change shouldn't be but 9:1 vs 9.4:1 so probably no special dish needed.
Need new pistons anyway so it doesn't matter.
If that is the case, the only thing I see is the smaller rod journal is going to have a little more pressure per bearing area and a little less strength in the crank due to smaller rod journals.
The compression change shouldn't be but 9:1 vs 9.4:1 so probably no special dish needed.
Need new pistons anyway so it doesn't matter.
Martin D
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Tony,
What part of the car do you want?? I am assuming the engine - that way you can replace all your worn parts with my new ones?? Or do you want the rear end of the car - since that is the view you will always see of it on the highway?
Let me know, cause for the right price, I will let you have any "sum o that" part of the car!
Regards,
What part of the car do you want?? I am assuming the engine - that way you can replace all your worn parts with my new ones?? Or do you want the rear end of the car - since that is the view you will always see of it on the highway?
Let me know, cause for the right price, I will let you have any "sum o that" part of the car!
Regards,
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Joe117
If you offset grind the crank that much, you will grind through the heat treatment. If you re- heat treat the crank, you will be okay or you can just go the $$$$ route and buy a new billet crank. Of course, if you are going to spend the $$$$ for a new crank, make it a 4.25" and build a 542. The rod-stroke ratio will still be 1.44- short but consider that many BBCs use a rod-stroke ratio of 1.35.
Just my 2 cents
If you offset grind the crank that much, you will grind through the heat treatment. If you re- heat treat the crank, you will be okay or you can just go the $$$$ route and buy a new billet crank. Of course, if you are going to spend the $$$$ for a new crank, make it a 4.25" and build a 542. The rod-stroke ratio will still be 1.44- short but consider that many BBCs use a rod-stroke ratio of 1.35.
Just my 2 cents
1TONY1
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Tony,
What part of the car do you want?? I am assuming the engine - that way you can replace all your worn parts with my new ones?? Or do you want the rear end of the car - since that is the view you will always see of it on the highway?
Let me know, cause for the right price, I will let you have any "sum o that" part of the car!
Regards,
I would choose to have the 512ci
The rear view ???? You want me to spot you a couple cars.....I don't think so Martin D
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All poking fun aside, the car comes home today. I am pretty excited. It sounds even better than in did before at an idle. Give me a couple months for tuning and break in and we can get together and go run around and terrorize the highways of north Georgia!!!
Regards,
Regards,
1TONY1
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That's great, I know you will be glad to have it back.
SapphireGTS
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That car is going to be nails.
This is the best looking viper on this page by the way. Not to feed any already over-inflated egos or anything.
This is the best looking viper on this page by the way. Not to feed any already over-inflated egos or anything.
joe117
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"or you can just go the $$$$ route"
I'd say that the $$$ route would not be cost effective for the gain @510 cubes.
If $$$ isn't too important it doesn't mean anything but 22 cubes an a little extra leverage from the stroke increase, probably won't result in 20 extra hp over whatever else the engine has.
I guess there must be other factors that make the 542 more trouble than the 510, otherwise, why not go all the way with the new crank, rods and pistons.
I'd say that the $$$ route would not be cost effective for the gain @510 cubes.
If $$$ isn't too important it doesn't mean anything but 22 cubes an a little extra leverage from the stroke increase, probably won't result in 20 extra hp over whatever else the engine has.
I guess there must be other factors that make the 542 more trouble than the 510, otherwise, why not go all the way with the new crank, rods and pistons.
V10 MOJO
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thnx for the plug and JDAWG is an excellent driver, puts his seattime in and his sapphire has earned my respect. its gonna be fun no matter what (but im still going for the win )
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