In Steve00RT/10's setup..he has a Roe and full Belanger exhaust ( 4 muffler version ) minus cats. At the end of
this clip (where you hear someone laughing) Steve is about 1/4 mile away and it sounds as if his Viper is right in front of you. That's loud! But a pleasant loud rumble as opposed to the drony (is that a word?) loud or tinny loud on some other systems. I don't think there's a more beautiful exhaust note than a full Belanger system (with or without cats). It all depends on your personal tastes. Do you like the UPS truck sound? Ricer Sound? Or pissed-off ***** Ape sound? Personally, I'm a ***** ape kinda' guy myself.
Thanks Tony. Actually that clip was made pre-blower in 2004, and done with a handheld PDA device. Sorry for the confusion. The car is louder now, probably because I'm pushing a bunch more air in and trying to push a bunch more out. I have HS roller rockers (which have worked just fine and never been touched in over 11,000 miles last summer)....and the pickle is in. I don't know about bigger pulleys and air restrictions due to the pickle, but I'd like to think our car is as fast as any other Roe 5 pounder with the same set up except for the headers. Hitting it in 4th gear at 95 MPH shows a snapshot of 2.1 seconds from 103-121 MPH (log run). 45-90 in 3rd gear is in the 3.6 second range on a cool day. I think that's pretty fast for a 5 pounder, although I would more than interested in comparing that to someone elses. Might make the argument for pickle or no pickle -- at least with a 5 pounder. I would guess a 6.5 pound pulley wouldn't make much difference on the exhaust flow. We're only talking about 20HP or so. I also have no idea how removing the pickle affects the 'Belanger' sound. I completely agree about adding roller rockers. SC like air. The more air in and out...the more power. Also I think RRs would theorectically keep the charge temp down a little as the SC is not creating as much heat when the blowered air has an easier passage in and out. This is probably a bigger deal for cast piston car like ours. Per the log runs, the roller rockers knocked roughly .3 seconds off my 45-90 runs in 3rd gear.
As for the sound with a Roe.......I alway spin in first gear when I get out to the highway from our house. It's tradition since 3/00. A friend of mine owns a car wash right where I do the deed. He loves it. When I put the blower on in 2006, he immediately asked what I had done to the car after hearing it go by a few times. He said it was a meaner, louder, deeper, better sound than before. .......Before being Belanger headers, no cats, 3" Belanger exhaust, and the 4 muffler set up ( Walker Dynomax Race Bullets). I think it's because of the more air moving in and out.
A few years ago, a friend of mine in his DLM level 3+ car came blowing by me. His exhaust actually hurt my ears as he passed. He was pushing tremendous amounts of air out. I guess our car has been known to do the same when blowing by people at take off speeds when they have their window down (which was intentionally down just to hear it come by). The DLM car has the same Belanger set up as me -- with pickles. He has run 10.3 at 141.6 MPH. His car made 842 RWHP/800RWTQ last summer up here. The pickle didn't seem to take too much away. As a testament to Doug Levin, I would add that this particular car only runs a few hundred miles a year and has never been touched since the install in the winter of 03. The dyno run was on pump gas with the car just out of winter storage. That car is a real BEAST!!
I might add we have been all over the country with this open Belanger set up. Over 70,000 miles of Belanger 'music' to date. Cruising in 6th gear is not a lot different than stock.
Steve
Works for me!
