EBC brakes red stuff

Discussion in 'RT/10 and GTS Discussions' started by Glen97, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Glen97

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    I just installed Tom's 40MM calipers on the rear and EBC reds front and rear 97 GTS. Now I have a break squeak at low speed when I'm easy on the breaks is this normal for the EBC reds?

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  2. cyaford

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    <------------ Currently using EBC reds.

    No, it's not normal to squeal.
     
  3. Roy

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    mine did, but this wasn't a viper
     
  4. RobZilla

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    Change to Hawk. You wont be dissapointed.

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  5. TowDawg

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    +1 on this.

    I put a set of Reds on mine and they squeaked badly. I tried everything and every break-in procedure, but it just would not go away. I changed to Hawks and they are completely quiet. I know some people love the reds, but I'm not one of them. I actually gave mine away to another member who likes them.
     
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    Great subject as I'm shopping for pads right now. Looks like I will be purchasing a set of Hawks!:2tu:
     
  7. Darbgnik

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    <----- has EBC reds that squeal, but possibly didn't bed them properly.:dunno:
     
  8. cyaford

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    I wonder if it's a model year problem? I've seen others post about squeaking and others saying they don't squeak. All I can say is that after following the brake-in procedures, my '97 GTS doesn't squeal a bit and dusts MUCH less than stock. However, if I were tracking my car I wouldn't be using the reds, as they seem to be just a marginal improvement over the stock pads.
     
  9. Glen97

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    I followed the directions in the box. 40 mph then break easy 5 times 1 minute intervals. I did this 2 times.

    Glen
     
  10. markus

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    i've heard of ebc reds destroying countless numbers of rotors, but this was on the srt8's. im currently running a set (on my srt8) and have no problems, but i'm beginning to think im just lucky. can't really speak for the vipers.
     
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    Been using the reds with no issues. More aggressive bedding might help. I did my stops from 70+mph.
     
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    +1 on the Hawks...had enough of the reds.
     
  13. Glen97

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    I gave it try at 70+ and it seems better.
     
  14. Glen97

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    I was just checking out the Hawks web site. What one's are you guys using?
    Thanks,
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  15. Brian GTS

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    Glen,

    Assuming you have a 97 like in your avatar, you will probably want to go with the Hawk HPS pads. For the Gen II cars, they only make the fronts in the Performance Ceramic compound...not the rears. So, unless you want to mix compounds front/rear, go with the HPS pads. I have the HPS pads on my 99 R/T...great pads and very little dust at all!

    You can buy them from Roe Racing.
     
  16. EMnuke123

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    i have the reds with NO squeeling at all. i bedded them per the instructions. but i do also have aftermarket drilled and slottet rotors. dunno if that makes any differance.
     
  17. RTTTTed

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    I installed EBC Greens on my 14" Roe Racing slotted lighweight BB kit. Big dust issues so I went home after track day and JonB send me a full set of EBC REDs.

    Then I bought a highly modified 2000ACR and the brake dust was realy sad (every 5 miles dusted the wheels). So I installed lightweight rotors and JonB sent me another full set of EBC reds. Stop-tech recommends that you break-in your brakes using 10 stops from 50mph-5mph, then drive for a half hour (without using brakes). Then stop 100mph - 5mph and drive for 45 min without touching brakes (or a similar proceedure). Since it's a 200mile trip to town I broke the pads in driving to the car show and after the second 'temper' I checked out my rotors to check on brake balance and all 4 rotors were medium blue colored from the intense heat. Perfect! Both my front 14" ABS and my 13" 2000 Vipers colored equally and the brakes are perfect! I have no clue how you guys living in the city could possibly get the necessary amoung or road to properly brake in your pads?

    No squeal and brakes are awesome (even the 13" eradispeeds).


    Ted
     
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    Thanks Ted,

    I'll give it a try in the morning I have a 200 mile drive tomorrow. They seem to work great it's just that squeal right at the end of braking. Rolling up to a stop sign.

     
  19. RTTTTed

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    When I did my last couple high speed stops there was small clouds of blue smoke drifting away.

    I had EBCs on my 98 GTS with Tom's rear calipers and they were great as well.

    If you get a chance go to Stoptech's website and read the break-in instructiosn listed there. The 50-5mph stops were light application while the 100-5mpg were medium to stiff brake apllications.

    After I broke in My Roe Racing brakes then first full stop application I used ruined my wheel alignment!

    Ted
     
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    I have reds and no squeal. I did the bedding per the instructions with the pads. I do have 14" SRT brakes on my Gen 2 tho.

    +1 on the Hawks. I'll go with HPS when I'm tired of the lack of stopping performance of the reds. But they keep the wheels clean LOL.
     
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    I'm not a fan of reds at all, I run greens on the street. But I'm kind of a go big or stay home kind of guy.
     
  22. Glen97

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    I got in the car this morning and the brakes did'nt make a sound. I do have stock rotors. I also did four 100 mph to 5 mph stops 20 minutes apart because I could. No smoke. True story.
    Thanks for everyone's input!
    Glen

     
  23. KNG SNKE

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    It is normal for the EBC's to squeal, especially in the beginning. I did the full bed in process and they still made noise for a while afterwards. That bed in process is crap. I'd say after 500 miles I no longer have any noise at low pressure braking.
     
  24. red heat

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    me too. have had ERC reds for about 1/2 yr now. zero squeal
     
  25. RTTTTed

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    You're referring to the break-in coating wearing off?

    Ted
     
  26. KNG SNKE

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    Probably the brake coating. Annoying as hell. Now I have mo squealing at all. I barely ever hear any noise at all.
     

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