Gen 3 tuner near VA

[GOTUBCH]

My car is currently tuned on HP tuners and I am doing new heads on it. Car had a precious tune on it and would like to ensure the tune is suitable for the new heads. Prefer someone near VA or a good remote tuner.

 

[Badsnek]

My car is currently tuned on HP tuners and I am doing new heads on it. Car had a precious tune on it and would like to ensure the tune is suitable for the new heads. Prefer someone near VA or a good remote tuner.

I’d tell you to call Havik but they’ve stopped tuning stock PCMs because of all the issues with HP and SCT in the last 3 years.

The remote tuner that probably does the most Vipers I don’t recommend because he tunes super conservative and very rich. So rich in fact that my last Viper I bought that was tuned by him was running so rich it was washing the cylinders out and I had fuel in my oil.

There’s a Viper shop or two that claim they have never had issues (recently seen a car that was tuned by them in the last year end up at Havik for PCM failure because of the tuning) will offer remote tuning.

Big gamble. Hope it goes in your favor if you find someone you trust trying to tune it. All my boosted Vipers will be switched over to a stand alone if they need any retuning. I’m not risking rebuild money on a gamble. That’s just me

 

[GOTUBCH]

Man that makes me wish I had just gone back to stock heads and force inducted it.... UGH... wonder if my heads have started to have work on them yet....

 

[Viper Specialty]

I’d tell you to call Havik but they’ve stopped tuning stock PCMs because of all the issues with HP and SCT in the last 3 years.

The remote tuner that probably does the most Vipers I don’t recommend because he tunes super conservative and very rich. So rich in fact that my last Viper I bought that was tuned by him was running so rich it was washing the cylinders out and I had fuel in my oil.

There’s a Viper shop or two that claim they have never had issues (recently seen a car that was tuned by them in the last year end up at Havik for PCM failure because of the tuning) will offer remote tuning.

Big gamble. Hope it goes in your favor if you find someone you trust trying to tune it. All my boosted Vipers will be switched over to a stand alone if they need any retuning. I’m not risking rebuild money on a gamble. That’s just me

Never had an issue... but I wont tune VE altered [HC/SC/TT] remotely, especially not ones I never built... and anyone who does is doing lots of guessing and assuming.

The issues are also HPT limitation related, not SCT... unless you dont know what you are doing of course... which is fairly universal for SCT since its very confusing.

This is a market-induced dilemma. Everyone has enough money for 2 engines and to put a Motec on the car, but never enough for a proper JTEC tune. So... the remote guys gobbled up the market with blanket solutions, and everyone else walked away, myself included, aside from basic files, crate engine applications, scaling, and internal projects. There is no money in tuning anymore, since everyone knows a guy that will do it [incorrectly] for 500 bucks or less... so why bother trying to argue with that mentality.

Chrysler spends millions of dollars on teams of calibrators building proper files. I am *sure* that guy doing the job in 90 minutes for 475 bucks is doing a fantastic job. If I rolled my eyes any harder while typing that, anyone who sees it would have their phone or laptop roll off the damn desk while reading it.

 

[efnfast]

I was satisfied with my remote tune with Torrie (Unleashed Performance) on my Gen 2 Viper - it came with a VEC that was causing insane drivability issues; installed a custom 3-bar map tune and HPT and his remote tune was very close after 2-3 driving passes (did final cleanup on the dyno, but it was all minor changes)

Regardless of how good a tuner is always do a final tune on the dyno though because every car is different and it's too hard to tune on the road. Unless a remote tuner knows you're going to final tune on the dyno they will usually run rich for safety, but too rich can be as much of an issue as too lean

edit: If I were doing it again, because everybody tunes mustangs and corvettes locally but nobody does Vipers, I would find a tuner like Torrie who knows Vipers, pay to fly him in and tune it on the dyno. Higher cost but substantially less pain in the ass.

Man that makes me wish I had just gone back to stock heads and force inducted it.... UGH... wonder if my heads have started to have work on them yet....

That makes no sense - tune is even more critical on f/i'd applications to make sure you don't go pop.

Frankly, I wish my gen 2 viper weren't f/i'd - it's such a fvcken pain in the ass and taught me not to do f/i builds, just n/a builds. Big heads/cam/stroker >>>>>>> f/i nonsense for reliability, maintenance, ease of use, power curve, etc..

 

[Viper Specialty]

I was satisfied with my remote tune with Torrie (Unleashed Performance) on my Gen 2 Viper - it came with a VEC that was causing insane drivability issues; installed a custom 3-bar map tune and HPT and his remote tune was very close after 2-3 driving passes (did final cleanup on the dyno, but it was all minor changes)

Regardless of how good a tuner is always do a final tune on the dyno though because every car is different and it's too hard to tune on the road. Unless a remote tuner knows you're going to final tune on the dyno they will usually run rich for safety, but too rich can be as much of an issue as too lean

edit: If I were doing it again, because everybody tunes mustangs and corvettes locally but nobody does Vipers, I would find a tuner like Torrie who knows Vipers, pay to fly him in and tune it on the dyno. Higher cost but substantially less pain in the ass.



That makes no sense - tune is even more critical on f/i'd applications to make sure you don't go pop.

Frankly, I wish my gen 2 viper weren't f/i'd - it's such a fvcken pain in the ass and taught me not to do f/i builds, just n/a builds. Big heads/cam/stroker >>>>>>> f/i nonsense for reliability, maintenance, ease of use, power curve, etc..

There is no way to build a proper calibration without 98% street driving, and 2% dyno time. The vast majority of condition and feel cannot be done on a dyno, and WOT tuning is the simplest portion of the file to produce.

 

[Badsnek]

I was satisfied with my remote tune with Torrie (Unleashed Performance) on my Gen 2 Viper - it came with a VEC that was causing insane drivability issues; installed a custom 3-bar map tune and HPT and his remote tune was very close after 2-3 driving passes (did final cleanup on the dyno, but it was all minor changes)

Regardless of how good a tuner is always do a final tune on the dyno though because every car is different and it's too hard to tune on the road. Unless a remote tuner knows you're going to final tune on the dyno they will usually run rich for safety, but too rich can be as much of an issue as too lean

edit: If I were doing it again, because everybody tunes mustangs and corvettes locally but nobody does Vipers, I would find a tuner like Torrie who knows Vipers, pay to fly him in and tune it on the dyno. Higher cost but substantially less pain in the ass.



That makes no sense - tune is even more critical on f/i'd applications to make sure you don't go pop.

Frankly, I wish my gen 2 viper weren't f/i'd - it's such a fvcken pain in the ass and taught me not to do f/i builds, just n/a builds. Big heads/cam/stroker >>>>>>> f/i nonsense for reliability, maintenance, ease of use, power curve, etc..

Ironically that’s who did the terrible tune on my one Supercharged Viper