Europeans - where do you park?

Peter-RedGTS'98

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There is one conclusion:

A) If you want to have great very long vacations across different cultures and fantastic scenery, or you have a lot of $ and want to live easy way around many beautiful easy going women then Europe is perfect (Spring and Summer only). Opsss, my wife is European.

B) But if you are opportunity/challenge driven and look to make serious $, then US is priceless.

Have fun – you live once.
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There is one conclusion:

A) If you want to have great very long vacations across different cultures and fantastic scenery, or you have a lot of $ and want to live easy way around many beautiful easy going women then Europe is perfect (Spring and Summer only). Opsss, my wife is European.

B) But if you are opportunity/challenge driven and look to make serious $, then US is priceless.

Have fun – you live once.
:2tu:

yep, no serious business in Europe.....what a tool :rolleyes:
 

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ViperGTS, that second pic you posted does look amazing indeed :D Too bad there's not so many Viper owners living here in The Netherlands, I heard there are over 200 in Germany :(
 

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UNRATLD,

I've been living in Switzerland for the last 24 years. I came with a one year contract then decided to stay because we liked it so much.

Most of my long Viper trips in Europe (Paris, LeMans, Hockenheim, Monza, Black Forest, Austria) were organised with fellows in the Swiss Viper Club. Secure parking was always arranged ahead of time practically everywhere we went, so no problem. No problem on the roads, Vipers are very much appreciated by most people.

When touring alone, I avoid public parkings and can always find a reserved place in front of restaurants and hotels and owners are always nice to allow parking a special car. Ferrari owners do the same!!

One evening, I parked between a Rolls-Royce and a Ferrari right in front on the Monte-Carlo casino. :rolleyes:

With your positive attitude I am sure you will enjoy this new experience. Too many travellers spend their energy complaining and never get close to a real relationship with the host country.

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Michel,
I lived in Zurich for 2 years, travelled all over the country, and never saw one Viper. How many are there?
 

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When I had the Viper in Greece last year I parked in my garage. When we went out to dinner always in front of the place. We tipped the guy well to watch it.There was always a crowd around the car and it made me feel uneasy. One thing about Europe, people don't give a sht and would touch the car, right in front of you.
 

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Peter this goes for your comment on money making in Europe.You have rich people in Europe which make the rich people in America look like thrash.I am serious.I agree that America has more opportunities in money making but damn, the crowd Iknow is beyond any money Ihave met here.We are talking about boats with copters on them as an every day toy. Houses that are over 20,000 sf and which I might say built with great pride. If you haven't seen the world don't comment about where the money is.
 

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So, Shaq's 60,000 sq.ft house is trashy compared to a ? I guess a leopard skin pattern on the carpet and a 15ft round bed with a superman logo, isn't to european tastes...

It's OK, I don't hang with him, or Madonna, or Bill gates or the Donald. TRASH!

All the above was said with jest. Just like my comment about Germans being anal-retentive about thier 'rules'. I still suggest not double parking in Munich. A double parked snake would draw quite a crowd, of police. What an idiot I am to think so!
 

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&lt;&lt;&lt;Munich. A double parked snake would draw quite a crowd, of police. What an idiot I am to think so! &lt;&lt;&lt;

Next time you visit Munich I will show you how to park a Viper in Munich, ok?

Kwik...: &gt;&gt;100 (my guess is 200-250) in Switzerland.
 

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KWIK,

There are around 160 Vipers in Switzerland. Some 87 are active members of the VCA (Region Switzerland) and 24 are passive members. On average, some 35 Vipers will participate in club touring events.

Having said that, I agree with you that apart from club events, few people use their cars extensively. In Geneva, when I hear that a Viper was spotted during the week-end, I know it's mine. :eek:

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The European working class is generally not into cars like in North America. Their wages doesn't allow it. The people in the expensive cars in Europe can well afford it, hence they don't see a problem.
Its trully a different world.
 

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&lt;&lt;&lt;Munich. A double parked snake would draw quite a crowd, of police. What an idiot I am to think so! &lt;&lt;&lt;

Next time you visit Munich I will show you how to park a Viper in Munich, ok?

Kwik...: &gt;&gt;100 (my guess is 200-250) in Switzerland.

THANKS! I have a hard time parking an Opel Corsa there! During Oktoberfest? Forget about it. I usually stay in Eching near the Flughafen München. I visit often as I work for the Bavarians....
 

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Flying Dutchman says:

What an Idiot...
yep, no serious business in Europe.....what a tool

So judgemental!

Wish I was smart enough to make friends by coming in here (Viper Club of AMERICA) and insult people for differing opinions.
 

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Flying Dutchman says:

What an Idiot...
yep, no serious business in Europe.....what a tool

So judgemental!

Wish I was smart enough to make friends by coming in here (Viper Club of AMERICA) and insult people for differing opinions.

talking about judgemental

yep still an idiot
 

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I recommend to read the book "The European Dream" (Jeremy Rifkin) - I am in the middle of reading the book and it will give you a good insight in both EU and US economy, society, religion, etc.

From Publishers Weekly
Why are so few Americans paying attention to the dramatic changes taking place across the Atlantic, Rifkin (The End of Work) asks in his provocative and well-argued manifesto for the new European Union. Famously, Americans "live to work" while Europeans "work to live," and Rifkin demonstrates statistically and anecdotally that Europe's humane approach to capitalism makes for a healthier, better-educated populace. The U.S. lags behind in its unimaginative approach to working hours, productivity and technology, Rifkin claims, while Europe is leading the way into a new era while competing well in terms of productivity. Rifkin traces the cultural roots of what he says is America's lack of vision to its emphasis on individual autonomy and the accumulation of wealth; Europe's dream is more rooted in connectedness and quality of life. Americans may be risk takers, but Rifkin is more admiring of risk-sensitive European realism, as well as its secularism and social democracy. Exploring the history behind the two continents' wildly differing sensibilities, Rifkin examines the myth of the U.S. as "land of opportunity" and the two continents' contrasting attitudes to foreign policy, peace keeping and foreign aid. Rifkin's claims are not new, but he writes with striking clarity, combining the insights of contemporary sociologists and economists with up-to-the minute data and powerfully apt journalistic observations. While he may appear to idealize Europe's new direction, Rifkin's comparative study is scrupulously thorough and informative, and his rigor will please all readers interested in the future of world affairs.
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The American Dream is not dead, says Rifkin, but it's showing its years. Contrasting definitively American fantasies of individual autonomy, material wealth, and cultural assimilation with an emerging European vision of community relationships, quality of life, and cultural diversity, Rifkin argues that the great bloodshed of the twentieth century liberated Europeans from their past, better preparing them for global citizenship in the twenty-first century. Rifkin paints this contrast with...
 

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Well said ViperGTS, but what is more humane about governments leaving less money in peoples pockets? Why is fuel in Europe so much costlier than in North America? Why is a new European car twice the price that it is in North America?
Maybe our Governments can figure out the trick of giving the citizenry the illusion of being more happy while bleeding more money out of them. Then all the officials can have even bigger yachts in the Monaco harbour with younger prostitutes on the decks.
 

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I never stated that I support all and everything RIFKIN is writing... :rolleyes:

I am not HAPPY with our government - for sure. As mentioned correctly, taxes are way to high, for example in Germany. But, that´s one (!) fact only. Moreover, unemployment rate is way to high - but, don't forget the reunification! The reunification with East Germany 1989 had a hugh impact on our West German system. On everything.

I would like to compare it with "Mexico, becoming the next state of the U.S.A." - from one day to the next day - think about it this way.

US or EU - most people on this board have never been to Europe. The book will give you a first insight into the two - very different - "systems".
 

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I picked up that book at Barnes and Noble. I think I'll go back and buy it next time. Just reading the jacket and a few pages, I could tell it was well written.
 

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ViperGTS, I had the pleasure of befriending a Volkswagen Engineer in Cuba and he gave me an earfull about the East Germans. Olaf and another fellow Akhim. Boy did they talk about them (second on the list were the English). They both asked me what job I did in Canada when I told them I owned a Viper. I was surprised they knew about the car. Good talking to you.
 

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