Question about 2001/2002 ACR models

Docta Vipa

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I am pretty much ready to make the switch from my Z06 to a Viper coupe. Since I plan to attend as many Viper Days as possible, and other similar DE's at the track, I figure a good slightly used ACR is probably the best choice for me at this point. What is it that sets the ACR apart from the standard GTS models? Are the 2001 and 2002 ACR's the same? Are the brakes/ABS on the 2001/2002 a big improvement over the brakes on earlier models?
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Michael (First post on the Viper Forum) :laugh: :usa:
 

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Learning to drive well is the first thing you need. (not necessarily a more powerful car!) For example, there is a local guy who posts over at open tracking, who has like 257 HP, and turns a lap time of 1:32 at Willow Springs. That is considered a great time for most, even for a stock 450HP Viper. And yet some people can go that fast in cars with much less power, and lesser suspensions/tires, etc! How do they do it? Keeping the momentum going on the proper line is paramount. Learn to do that first, then get some Viper-specific training in class and on track in your Viper, and you will be just that much better. Thats what makes Viper Days so fantastic. Viper-specific driver training.

But anyway, having bored you with all that, lets say you just like the raw power and appeal of the Viper. Great! Nice choice! You won't regret it one bit! I know I'm thrilled with mine, and plan to keep it until I'm too old to drive. Its a really unique car, that keeps a smile on your face for years.

The ACR has stiffer spring rates, and adjustable shock valving. It also has smooth intake tubes, and low restriction air filters. It has better oil pressure regulation than the stock GTS.

I don't know of any differences between the 01 and 02, except they changed the part number on the ABS unit for 02. Some people suspect that there was more to this, but I have no independant knowledge of that, one way or the other.

As far as the track goes, most of the time ABS brakes only make a difference if you apply more pressure than threshold braking requires. You can stand on 'em, and they will continue to allow the wheels to turn, even though you are applying too much pedal pressure.

Up unitl the point at which the wheels start to lock up, (threshold), the dynamics of pedal pressure and tire traction are the same, whether you are driving an ABS car, or not.

But then again, if you are shy to find the limits of the brakes, (or the traction of the tires), you can just stand on your ABS unit, and find out where the ABS starts to kick in, and maybe save some time getting acclimated to braking as hard as possible.

Whatever the case, get some class room time in, and get some on-track instruction before jumping into it. That will shorten the learning curve.

Last thing, go rob a bank, $$$ for tires, brakes, fluids, etc. :p

ps. Welcome to the forum!
 

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The ACR also comes with racing harnesses and BBS wheels. They also delete the foglights, A/C, and stereo. Most of them have the comfort package that adds back the A/C and streo. All of this, combined with the ACR wheels, makes the car a little lighter. As far as I know, the ABS is the same on the 01 and 02 models. Fellas, did I miss anything?
 

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Oh, yeah, huh! I forgot about the wheels, and the five points, and the fog light delete!

The ACR also comes with racing harnesses and BBS wheels. They also delete the foglights, A/C, and stereo. Most of them have the comfort package that adds back the A/C and streo. All of this, combined with the ACR wheels, makes the car a little lighter. As far as I know, the ABS is the same on the 01 and 02 models. Fellas, did I miss anything?
 

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I am pretty much ready to make the switch from my Z06...What is it that sets the ACR apart from the standard GTS models? Are the 2001 and 2002 ACR's the same? Are the brakes/ABS on the 2001/2002 a big improvement over the brakes on earlier models? Michael (First post on the Viper Forum) :laugh: :usa:

Welcome to the DARK SIDE (or is it the other way around)

-All ACRs have smoothe tubes and K+N fileters standard (10HP)
-They all have 5-pt harnesses. (99-00 were recalled)
-They all have 3-way adjustable suspensions (99-6/00 Koni; 6.9/00+ D.S.I.)
-----The problem is, the shocks on those newer DSI models only work well on perfectly flat, smoothe new surfaces! The rear spring rates are ill-conceived, but for a couple hundred you can swap rear springs and civilize this twitch-monstor (I have one)-----
-They all have 1-piece lightweight forged BBS wheels
-They all have external / internal ACR graphics and badging and no driving lites
-They all listed for $10,000 over Non-ACRs.
- Air Conditioning and Stereo CD was an option that 92.5% have.

Those who have had both ABS and Non love the ABS. ABS is not unique to ACR. Since you plan a lot of track events, eventually you will be glad to have it, 2001 or 2002 models only. Rain? ABS ! Compromised surfaces/ ABS! Cooked your entry? ABS ! Flat Spots from no ABS? ABS !

Questions? Call me. My wife's C-5 6-speed is parked alongside, and I had a brief encounter with a 405hp ZO6 as a Pace Car at PIR-Portland.
 
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Thanks for the great info you guys! Plus, perhaps best of all, you made my wife happy! I'll explain that one later on.
I had a Boxster S in Speed Yellow. Then a Z06 in Millenium Yellow. Now a GTS in Viper Yellow. Then neighbors are really going to start worrying about me now.
Vic - thanks for the good advice re: track driving. I couldn't agree with you more. But still, the Viper is going to be a lot of fun!
Now I really can't wait.
Michael
 
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