running different tires front and back

[avenged8fold]

I am looking to upgrade the rear tires on my SRT10 for a stickier street tires. I want to keep the stock rims and tire sizes. I like the nitto invo's and their attractive price tag. Would it be wise to leave the stock michelin run flats up front and put the nitto invo's in the rear? Are there consequences for this? Will this screw up the handling? I would like to only change the rear tires if I can get away with it. What rear tires would you guys suggest?

 

[dave6666]

This has been debated before. Use the search feature.

I seem to remember a few of the more trustworthy replies to previous and same inquisitions were... bad idea.

Bad idea portion being having different tires front and rear.

 

[avenged8fold]

I have tried different searches with different wording and keep getting nothing. What should I search for?

 

[dave6666]

http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/606008-tire-question.html

 

[Shandon]

I seem to remmeber a reply that JohnB had posted when somone asked about runflats in the front and PSII in the rear and he said BAD IDEA. I would expect that would apply here also. Not all tires handle the same OBVIOUSLY, so no idea what to expect with sticky boys on the back and old ones up front. Just seems to me it's not a good idea. Remmeber this isn't the family wagon but a very high torque, high Lateral G car that if it's not sticking to the road it's going to bite hard. Nothing like seeing the tail of your viper come around you unexpectedly

 

[JonB]

....... I would like to only change the rear tires if I can get away with it........?

"OK" on your Father's Oldsmobile.......or if you plan to drive in straight lines only.

On a Viper, with a 'race car chassis' to be safer you should have tires that perform the same while cornering: Flex the same, jounce the same, grip the same and brake the same......feedback to your SOTP the same......

You can get away with lots of things...... for example, only 60% of murders are solved!

 

[Shandon]

There ya go "Dave Satan 6 " posted the link right up there for ya.

 

[dave6666]

There ya go "Dave Satan 6 " posted the link right up there for ya.

Duh!

Double Dippity Duh too!

 

[Jsparks]

Dont' worry about it bro. If you cant' squeeze the cash just pick up the rear set. Most or I can probably say ALL of us do not test the limits of these cars on the streets; or come close for that matter. If you are road racing the car then it's obvious to do all four.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Don't drive like you're qualifying for the Indy 500 and you'll be fine.

 

[Viper X]

Avenged,

JonB is right, you should not run old, worn out run flats on the front and new sticky tires on the back ..... especially if you're going to drive aggressively around a track or around town for that matter.

On the other hand, I have been running PS2's on the front and Kumho Ecsta V-700's (very sticky) on the rear of my 925 rwhp SRT-10 for about 20,000 miles without any issues. I need the traction in the rear and this set up works very well for me and likely others.

I don't drive my SRT-10 super aggressively around corners with this set up, but I do drive it as hard as most on the street. Also, I do track my GTS at Viper Days and other events and have done some driving schools. I handle my car fairly well due to lots of practice.

With my current set up, the car exhibts a little bit of understeer when pushed - the car has more traction at the rear.

Someone above said something about seeing the tail end come around on you. It won't do that with sticky tires (most of the traction) on the rear.

If I were you, I'd buy the sticky rears and explore the limits. JonB has the best prices in town - call him. It would be better to upgrade the fronts too, but it's not necessary if you're careful.

Dan

 

[MikeR]

Don't drive like you're qualifying for the Indy 500 and you'll be fine.

Agreed.
While it may not be ideal, may not handle the same , you may never even notice under normal city driving.
Kinda like a pair of shoes, you can have a running shoe on one foot and a dress shoe on the other. You could walk around just fine, maybe even jog. But running a race would be a different story.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Agreed.
While it may not be ideal, may not handle the same , you may never even notice under normal city driving.
Kinda like a pair of shoes, you can have a running shoe on one foot and a dress shoe on the other. You could walk around just fine, maybe even jog. But running a race would be a different story.

An excellent analogy.

 

[avenged8fold]

Thanks for the replies, I guess I will take the advice and save some more to get all four at once, its hard with the mortgage and holidays. I want to keep the stock rims, what would you guys recommend to replace the whole set with a matching thread pattern? The Nitto Invo's have an attractive price, the ps2 are way more expensive, are they that much better? Anything else currently available? Thanks

Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried a hoosier a6/r6 in the back with the stock runflats in the front?

 

[MikeR]

Thanks for the replies, I guess I will take the advice and save some more to get all four at once, its hard with the mortgage and holidays. I want to keep the stock rims, what would you guys recommend to replace the whole set with a matching thread pattern? The Nitto Invo's have an attractive price, the ps2 are way more expensive, are they that much better? Anything else currently available? Thanks

Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried a hoosier a6/r6 in the back with the stock runflats in the front?

I have not tried the Nitto's but have not heard one good review on them.Supposedly they dont hook up that great and are poor in the turns,not great grip. The PS2's, I have tried and love them. I just switched to a 19/20 setup and again chose the PS2's. I would strongly recomend them. Smoothe ride, hook well from a launch and great up in the hills.

 

[Shandon]

PSII made a serious difference over the runflats. Hook up a lot better and I realy liked them on the track. The suprise for me was the ride... I was pleasently suprised. It realy is noticible over the runflats.

 

[Shelby3]

I have not tried the Nitto's but have not heard one good review on them.Supposedly they dont hook up that great and are poor in the turns,not great grip. The PS2's, I have tried and love them. I just switched to a 19/20 setup and again chose the PS2's. I would strongly recomend them. Smoothe ride, hook well from a launch and great up in the hills.

YouTube - Underground Racing Nitto Street Tire Record 06 Viper

 

[avenged8fold]

Yea, I saw that nitto Invo 06 turbo coupe video before which is why I was asking about them. That thing is sick. 9's on street tires is amazing, but the trap speed was up there too. Thats an 8 second car on sticky tires. If anyone has thrown a set of these Invo's on, please chime in and give us your feedback. I love the PS2's but that is a hefty price tag they carry.

 

[MikeR]

YouTube - Underground Racing Nitto Street Tire Record 06 Viper

Imagine what they would have done on some "good" tires.....

I saw that run last month, impressive, but still what Ive heard is the Nitto isnt that good, especially compared to PS2. And the way that TT car is setup, it didnt need a sticky tire to get out of the hole, most of the power came on later in the run.

 

[Paul Hawker]

There is absolutely no item that effects the handling of your Viper more than your tires.

If they are to be used only for straight line drags, then you are OK.

As Dan says, if you have stickey rears only, you need to be constantly aware that your car will no longer handle neutrally. Expect much more push, and have your front end slide out on a corner before the rear lets go.

Best solution, of course is to run the same tires with appropriate widths on all for corners.

The new pilot PS2s have gotten rave reviews from those who have switched to them over run flats.

Running older, hard riding, stiff walled run flats on the fronts, and stickey, soft walled new tires on the rear could get really ugly if your life ever depended on an emergency lane change.