Does any car look good next to a GTS?

[Alexarz]

It's apparent in pictures and even more so in person. Any car parked next to a GTS looks ugly. I even saw a Murci next to Orlando's GTS (black/ silver stripes) and the GTS made it look timid and like a toy (the pearly orange color didn't help matters). Z06's look like UPS trucks when parked next to a GTS. Hell, even a recent pic of a Gen4 ACR left me thinking to myself, "I'll be damned but that son of a bitchin' GTS just gave that ACR a bath".

 

[99VPRGTS]

Hmmm, I think you might be in the minority opinion here. I have seen a GTS parked next to a Carrera GT, LP640, and an Enzo. As much as I love the GTS, those other 3 cars blow it away. When you take attention to detail into account, build quality, engineering, interior details, paint, and other things...there is a reason why those cars cost the way they do.





With that said, even if I won 100 million dollars tomorrow, I would still have a GTS in my collection because I think it has as good of lines on it as any car. The exotic's just have that something extra that makes them, well, exotic.

 

[Brake Dust]

It's apparent in pictures and even more so in person. Any car parked next to a GTS looks ugly. I even saw a Murci next to Orlando's GTS (black/ silver stripes) and the GTS made it look timid and like a toy (the pearly orange color didn't help matters). Z06's look like UPS trucks when parked next to a GTS. Hell, even a recent pic of a Gen4 ACR left me thinking to myself, "I'll be damned but that son of a bitchin' GTS just gave that ACR a bath.

I have to agree.

 

[V10SpeedLuvr]

I'm more on the side of Alexarz. One of the extremely few cars that I think look better than a Viper is a Murcielago (coupe or roadster). Enzo's and Carrera GT's don't look as good as a GTS, IMO. If I won the lotto, I doubt I'd be buying a GT or Enzo. I'd have more than plenty Vipers (all Gen's and obviously some new ACR's), Lambos and uhhhh....maybe a Ferrari and Porsche or 2, but not because I think they look better than a GTS, just because "I could".

I remember going to the GA-VCA Christmas party back in 06' when I was going to be seeing my 1st SRT-C. Parked side-by-side to a GTS, I was surprised, but I still liked the GTS more. I had really planned on liking the SRT-C more and it didn't happen.

 

[RTTTTed]

It's apparent in pictures and even more so in person. Any car parked next to a GTS looks ugly. I even saw a Murci next to Orlando's GTS (black/ silver stripes) and the GTS made it look timid and like a toy (the pearly orange color didn't help matters). Z06's look like UPS trucks when parked next to a GTS. Hell, even a recent pic of a Gen4 ACR left me thinking to myself, "I'll be damned but that son of a bitchin' GTS just gave that ACR a bath.

I agree also. My GTS didn't have the TPMS so I added it. No Bluetooth so I added that (and nav). Lighter wheels and rotors before the ACR came out with them. PS2s etc. My GTS has all the good stuff that you can order in the new Vipers, except my BILLET wheels are nicer and lighter (I think) and I do think the GTS looks best of all cars ever built.

When Viper was up for sale I really didn't understand why Ferrari didn't buy it??? They would have owned the fastest road car in the world. Maybe they could have installed Ferrari, Viper 7:22.1 "Ring" decals on all their new cars. They didn't so they could do like GM and instal their SLOWER ring time decal on their cars ... ZR1 7:27? Ferrari Enzo went ... 7:24 at the ring? Just a touch slower than the Masi V12, right?

Call JonB/partsrack and get your own ACR 7:22.1 decal!!! Makes me wanna have some "ACR beats ZR1 and all other cars in world" decals made up and offer to stick them on for everyone else, lol.

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Ted

 

[VIPER 93]

It's apparent in pictures and even more so in person. Any car parked next to a GTS looks ugly. I even saw a Murci next to Orlando's GTS (black/ silver stripes) and the GTS made it look timid and like a toy (the pearly orange color didn't help matters). Z06's look like UPS trucks when parked next to a GTS. Hell, even a recent pic of a Gen4 ACR left me thinking to myself, "I'll be damned but that son of a bitchin' GTS just gave that ACR a bath.

Pearly Orange ?

 

[Ray W]

The GTS is still beautiful almost 13 yrs later. It will truly be the replacement for the 67 Vette for one of the best designs of all time.

 

[RTTTTed]

The GTS is still beautiful almost 13 yrs later. It will truly be the replacement for the 67 Vette for one of the best designs of all time.

The 67 vette might be your idea of best, but I think the '63 was best vette.

The Viper shares No design from the vette (except maybe the truck susp. originally). The concept and then both the R/T10 and the GTS were updates to Shelby's AC Cobra and Daytona Coupe. Carroll also helped with the design. No vette stuff. Carroll was a Ford man.

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After building about 6 Daytona coupes Carroll was assigned to the Ford GT40 and kicked all asps with that car. After the Viper I like the Ford GT best ... well except for the Ford Shelby concept GR1. Although polished Stainless Steel isn't my favourite color for a driving car ... I'd keep it. Couldn't afford insurance on that thing I'm sure. I did see the car at the Vancouver International Auto show and it is spectacular.

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Ted

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Does any car look good next to a GTS?

Yes.

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[Alexarz]

99VPRGTS, if those effeminate euro cars have so much better build quality than a Viper, how come they are much more unreliable?

 

[99VPRGTS]

Do you really not know the answer to that? There are a number of factors. Those 3 cars are about as close to a race car as you can get. I'm sure you know what it takes to upkeep a race car and having an exotic like the 3 I mentioned also requires a lot except for maybe the Carrera GT. The clutch design on it is revolutionary and does not even need to be looked at until 300000 miles as well as the engine tune up is not scheduled for 15K miles.

If you have one of those cars in your garage, you are not driving it every day and will put even less miles on them as you would a Viper. Also, if you have that kind of coin laying around, having to pay for all the required maintenance/tune ups is the least of your concerns.


Don't get me wrong bro, I LOVE my GTS and will probably have it 30 years from now. BUT, if you have ever really looked over an exotic car like the 3 I mentioned, I mean, spent an hour really becoming familiar with the car and all the attention to detail, it would truly blow your mind! I got to see the Lambo up on a lift and all I could do was just keep picking my mouth up off the ground!!

 

[Alexarz]

What does all that hype mean if an ACR Viper will kick the snot out of them on a road course? Getting back to the original topic, I have seen a Murci close up and next to a GTS. A Murci is certainly an attractive car but park it next to a GTS and it looks goofy.

GTS by KO in round 2

 

[Alexarz]

By the way, I saw a Saleen S7 (the same owner as the Murci) and while it looked outrageous from the outside, it looked like a Kit Car upon close inspection. The Lambo has the nice leather dash and all but on outside appearance alone, it better steer clear of a GTS.

 

[99VPRGTS]

LOL well, like I said, there is a reason those cars cost as much as they do.

Your telling me that the interior or the engine bay of a GTS looks better than an LP640? As far as the exterior goes, I like both cars. The brakes on the LP look 10 times better than the GTS as do the rims IMHO (sorry but the stock GTS rims are fugly LOL). Also, there are no gaps or bolts showing any where on the Lambo even with all the doors, hood, and trunk open. If you notice, there are gaps between the hood and bumper on the GTS as well as gaps between the rocker and the hood/doors. This again is because of the build quality/design. Don't get me wrong, it still looks bad ass but, the exotics don't have **** like that on them. The paint has no orange peel because it has been cleard and wet sanded in a 5 stage process. A guy I know has a 16 year old Diablo and the paint looks brand new. How many times have you seen a thread on here or at the Alley with guys complaining about the paint bubbling or the finish?

Again these are just details that are different between the cars and just my opinion.

 

[plumcrazy]

i think the only car that makes the GTS disappear IS the murci (especially in orange). its also better looking in my opinion. no other car is though.

 

[Ray W]

Since we are comparing exotics lets go apples to apples. Today which car has the better quality,looks and style? Today. 1996 Corvette, 1996 Lamborgini,1996 Ferrari,1996 Porsche or 1996 GTS?

I perfer the 1996 GTS "fighter plane" looks.

Ever notice you can't draw a more dramatic Viper GTS than the real one?

 

[99VPRGTS]

True. But in 1996 the Diablo looked pretty damn good as well ( still prefer the looks of the GTS over the cars you mentioned)! Of course, the big difference between the Diablo and the GTS is the Diablo looks out of date now and chincy...where as the GTS will still look timeless 30 years from now!!!!

 

[GBS]

I love the looks of my GTS ACR but there are a lot of other cars I love the looks of too!

 

[RTTTTed]

Greg Phillips owns the "fastest street tire lap" at Race city in calgary and he did the fastest lap in a 1000whp Murci. Sent me an email that his STOCK 550rwhp is gonna set the record this year!

Besides you can't drive a 1000hp murci every day and I bet it needs more than a "normal" $17,000 'tune-up' every 10K or so??? Not something I'd be interested in owning. And if every stock ACR could put me on the trailer ... well, I'm not that good at losing. Not even if losing would cost me an extra $2.00/ mile and it only got 11mpg instead of the 20usmpg that my supercharged GTS gets - nope, wouldn't want one.

No bubbles in my paint at 47,500 miles and ... it's 9 years old. The fibergals parts can be seen - because the polyurethane resin keeps curing long after the car is sold. No orange peel though.

These "invented for the 08 Viper" PS2 tires now have 18,000 miles on them. That's 9,000 mi more than my PS1s lasted and considering the traction is nearly doubled ... What tires do you get on a Murci again?

Ted

 

[99VPRGTS]

LMAO dude everything that you just mentioned are peanuts to someone that can afford the Murci. Do you really think the owners of these 400 thousand dollar cars care about tires or tune ups? Is a Lambo meant for daily driving? Much less a TT one? They aren't supposed to be. Again, your thinking in your terms and not the terms of someone in that income bracket that owns one of those cars. I can promise you that unless you have had the car wetsanded by hand, it will have orange peel in the clear. I know this because every Viper that I have looked at (all GEN's) with the exception of the new ACR has it.

 

[jamie furman]

The GTS is still beautiful almost 13 yrs later. It will truly be the replacement for the 67 Vette for one of the best designs of all time.

Looks are subjective and personal but I agree with you Ray 100%!

 

[RTTTTed]

LMAO dude everything that you just mentioned are peanuts to someone that can afford the Murci. Do you really think the owners of these 400 thousand dollar cars care about tires or tune ups? Is a Lambo meant for daily driving? Much less a TT one? They aren't supposed to be. Again, your thinking in your terms and not the terms of someone in that income bracket that owns one of those cars. I can promise you that unless you have had the car wetsanded by hand, it will have orange peel in the clear. I know this because every Viper that I have looked at (all GEN's) with the exception of the new ACR has it.

So you're saying that if I bought a $400,000 car I'd not care that I have to stop twice as often to fill up with gas? I would have to plan my crosscountry trips according to my tune-ups???

That's kind of like saying that I want to buy a car that is twice as much work, costs ten times as much to drive, can't keep up to the Dodges and I'd be dumb enough to pay 400% more for that? I don't think so.

Kinda like saying that MY Viper has orange peel? NO it doesn't. Neither does Joe Christopherson's GTS or Greg Welfen's 96 GTS. Matter of fact if you saw Greg's 96 you'd probably tell him he painted it. I find it amazing that he drives it and the paint sparkles better than new (even though it was painted in 95.

Some of us wouldn't throw our money away, or waste it and having millions wouldn't change that. My experience with millionaires and billionaires is that they HATE getting ripped off! I could afford to buy a Ferrari or Lambo, but I like having No debt and the idea of paying huge bucks because I own a car would get it junked as fast as breaking down all the time.

 

[99VPRGTS]

LMMFAO you crack me up dude. People do NOT factor in filling their Lambo's/Ferrari's/CGT's up with gas when purchasing the cars. Do your really think that would be a factor? Do you really think the guys that can afford to own one of those cars pays for them monthly? You are out of your mind. BTW the only car bone stock that can hang with those supercars is the ACR. If you run into an Enzo on the highway in a bone stock anything Dodge makes, it will tear you a new ass all the way up to 220MPH.

It really cracks me up that you honestly think that upkeep, gas, and tune ups are on these peoples minds when buying these cars. Oh and how many people take those cars on a road trip?

 

[RTTTTed]

LMMFAO you crack me up dude. People do NOT factor in filling their Lambo's/Ferrari's/CGT's up with gas when purchasing the cars. Do your really think that would be a factor? Do you really think the guys that can afford to own one of those cars pays for them monthly? You are out of your mind. BTW the only car bone stock that can hang with those supercars is the ACR. If you run into an Enzo on the highway in a bone stock anything Dodge makes, it will tear you a new ass all the way up to 220MPH.

It really cracks me up that you honestly think that upkeep, gas, and tune ups are on these peoples minds when buying these cars. Oh and how many people take those cars on a road trip?

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Hmmm so you're saying that I'm not allowed to buyan Enzo or a Murci? Thanks, but I thought about it and decided that I don't want to get ripped off for a car that gets its ass kicked by a stock $100,000 Dodge and every modified OLD GTS that looks so much better than everything (thread's subject) else.

I guess that you're idea is that a supercar is to "look at, polish and spend money on". The Doctor I bought my first GTS said that to me. I said, "Thanks for taking such good care of my car." IT IS A CAR. No drive means that you're using it as an exercise machine? waxing? Can't get any women if it's parked in your garage, eh? Guess "those guys that can afford them" have to drive around in Kias?

I could afford one of "them" but I'd buy a Ford GT as my second choice. Because with a pulley change, a set of Viper tires and it may have a chance at keeping up to the ACR. Besides they get better mileage. Even the Z06 gets decent mileage. I guess the North American engineers are just a heall of a lot smarter.

Ted

 

[goldcup]

I think the whole point here is that the design of the Gen II coupe is and will be considered an iconic shape in car design.The build quality and performance are secondary to this discussion.There are many cars built today that are faster higher quality blah blah blah.But they are just cars.......... the Gen II Viper coupes and all the RT's are instantly recognizable and will be the most sought after in years to come.When the general public thinks Viper they think of the RT's and GTS.I am not bagging on any other Gens or makes but very few designs achieve the beauty grace and balance that this design has.
They got the lines of the car right and were smart enough not to screw with it for quite sometime.

 

[MTGTS]

Me and my buddies cars

 

[plumcrazy]

i happen to know a basically daily driven TT murci thats at 1K rwhp. and the same guy might be on his second one too by now.

extremely streetable and fast.

 

[terminator02]

To me, there are no better looking cars (maybe as some said the Murci and Gallardo). But at what price? Honestly, with how cheap these cars are going..there are NO cars that look as good.

I can't wait until people realize the cars they are sitting on and realize their worth. It is the owners that are giving these away; it's not the buyers faults. In a few years these will NOT be going under 40k (regardless of miles). These things are beautiful works of art and art typically does not depreciate forever...

 

[Mopar Boy]

No. EVEN MORE so if the GTS is yellow!

See?

 

[dave6666]

I think all of my vehicles look good parked next to each other. One is a GTS, the other two are not sports cars.