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Gen V update - 6,000 mile mark

Discussion in 'Generation V Discussions / SRT Coupe, GTS, GTC, AC' started by Nine Ball, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Nine Ball

    Nine Ball Enthusiast

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    My wife and I have put approx 6,300 miles on the 2013 Viper so far. It has now been on 3 road trips, and used for daily work commutes at least once per week. I'll share some feedback on the car, for those who will likely never see any real miles on their Viper. :rolaugh:

    At approx 1000 miles, the seat cushions softened up nicely. Our SRT has the upgrade leather interior. When the car was brand new, the seat cushion felt pretty firm. The Gen 3/4 seats are still softer, but the Gen 5 seats are now acceptable in comfort. The main difference is if you keep a wallet in your back pocket, the Gen 5 will remind you that it isn't a good idea. The Gen 3/4 seats had thicker cushions, and you won't notice having a wallet back there. Another note about the SRT level leather seats, they seem to age better than the GTS leather seats I've seen in other Vipers. The GTS Laguna leather shows a lot of wrinkles and waviness on the quilted pattern areas, whereas our SRT leather seats show no wrinkles and are generally still brand new looking.

    The TR6060 transmission and shifter became less notchy at around 1500 miles. The mechanical feel is very precise, on par with other manual cars I've owned with aftermarket shifters. The Gen 5 will never need an aftermarket shifter, it is simply perfect as-is. With the notchiness gone, the shifts are very precise and smooth. The shifter has no slop in it at all. I have a lot of confidence about not missing a gear in this car.

    The hood gap on my driver's side, in front of the wheel, is slightly bigger than the same gap on the passenger side. Gaps behind the wheels are uniform and tight on both sides. I looked for a way to adjust the gap, but found no way to do so. It isn't horrible, but I notice it.

    I do not like the buttons on the underside of the interior rear-view mirror. Terrible spot for those buttons, as my wife and I share the car and have to adjust the mirror for ourselves. The buttons call 911 and use the phone. You don't see them until you accidentally push them with your thumb, when trying to adjust the mirror. On other cars, these buttons are on the face of the mirror, so you can see them clearly. I've almost dialed 911 a few times, and have to scramble to cancel the call on the radio.

    Rearview camera is pretty awesome. It is also pretty accurate when judging curb distance and parking between lines. I've got a lot of confidence in the camera now. I wish my other Viper had this.

    The clutch in this car makes more noise than most cars, during engagement. Sort of a "click" mechanical sound, whenever the gear is changed at slower speeds, like the pressure plate is reacting to engaging. It has always done this, since new.

    No rattles or squeaks evident.

    The suspension has settled in height some, and has gotten a little less stiff. I recall it being a little more bouncy when it was new. Now it rides pretty well for a sports car, except on horrible roads. It isn't a Cadillac, but the ride quality is acceptable for essentially a street legal race car. My Gen 3 rides rougher.

    People have complained about exhaust drone, but I'd consider it just the factor of having sidepipes. The exhaust note is louder between 2100-2300 rpm at cruising speed, but it isn't what I'd consider a "drone". It is a steady, deep, bass note. Most drone in other cars has some sort of weird harmonic that varies in pitch and fluctuates in sound, but the Viper note is just loud. It doesn't reverberate or sound distorted. This noise is also reduced a bit if you crack the windows down about 1cm. Might just be interior acoustics. But, it doesn't bother me or the wife.

    Still getting a random A/C issue, related to the bi-level (floor/dash) vents both not coming on when the car is first started. Sometimes just the floor vents are blowing, dash vents off - even though it is set as bi-level. It doesn't happen every time, maybe 1 out of 15 starts. I just go to the climate control screen and push the dash-only button, then push the bi-level button and it works again. I'm thinking this is the stereo head unit causing this weird issue. I haven't felt the need to take it in for service, and will wait until there is a new firmware for the radio. I've read others mention this same occurrence with the U-Connect radios.

    Two oil changes so far (1st at 1500, 2nd at 4500). Oil level never noticeably dropped, so the car isn't consuming any oil. Oil came out relatively clean both times, so more miles can definitely be run on the synthetic oil. Penzoil wasn't available any place nearby, so I went with Mobil-1 both times.

    This car definitely passes the water leak test, as I've now driven it in quite a few deluges since owning it. Just this past weekend, while driving to the ALMS race in Austin, it was driven through very hard storms. Some were so bad you couldn't see out of the windshield. No interior leaks to report. Water sitting on the road sure makes a loud sound when splashing off the tires and onto the flat underbelly. No fun!

    The Garmin-based navigation works very well. We've driven across the country three times, solely using it. The traffic avoidance seems to work well, it automatically tries to re-route you around known road issues. Sometimes this means obscure back-roading it, but it did work.

    Overall, we are very pleased with the new Viper.

    Tony
     
  2. ferraritoviper

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    6000 miles...wow! Mines still in Michigan with 8 miles on it :omg: Good review, tks.
     
  3. mjorgensen Woodhouse

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    Nice write up Tony, thanks for your feedback.
     
  4. johniew398

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    I would comment how great your car looks plus I like the fact someone drives their Viper like it is intended; but I can't post.
     
  5. mikesax

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    photo.jpg 6500 miles and everything works perfectly!! Seats have softened up a bit, that was the most dramatic change from my 2010-took a little bit to get used to but now my verts seats are too smushy since most of my time is spent in my 2013. The car really does seem to get better every day- I really can't say enough positive things about it- I know-I want another one!!!!!
     
  6. 72hemi

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    6,000 miles already, that's awesome! Glad to see people are driving them.
     
  7. Nine Ball

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    Mike, glad to see other Vipers out there being enjoyed! I put 14K miles on my '06 before turning it into a race car. LOL. Now it gets very short bursts of driving enjoyment. That is the reason for the '13.
     
  8. ViperSmith

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    I have to agree on most points. Though, I never touch the rear view so I can't comment on the buttons.

    My only frustrations with the car have been with UConnect. It is slow to respond and sometimes the Nav will get goofy and you have to reboot the system. The Viper techs have asked I complain about it, because if the Viper is having the issues more than likely they will get it fixed for the other cars.

    My biggest lesson to myself is the constant reminder I need to let the tires warm up before giving a bit of gas, ESC is great in that respect though.

    2,400 miles for me and I love getting to drive it as often as possible.

    I haven't noticed the AC issues you have - I have noticed if you give it some gas the temp coming out of the AC will drop slightly for a second or two and then go back to normal.
     
  9. SilveRT8

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    I agree with Nine Ball's review on most everything. Only had the car for 6 weeks with 1400 miles, but I enjoy every minute of driving it. I took it to the Track and it's a Beast made for this. On occasions I do get the climate control not blowing through the vents also, a manual change of levels and it comes back on. What annoys me is when I go to Performance pages sometimes it acts crazy, not allowing Gauges 2 to come on, and I can't change the color of the display car, it's stuck on red. Also when on a menu, if I get a phone call it stays on phone after I hang-up and does not return to the previous menu, so I have to start over and wait for Performance pages to load again. Last gripe is with the back liftgate, when I press the remote it pops up but does not unlatches completly, so I have to press the remote and lift the panel at the same time, anybody else has this ?
     
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    Overall the Viper seems to be a solid driving, performing car from these longer term reviews. Im glad to hear it. Lots of little teething problems being mentioned though. I guess its to be expected of a first year car. Hopefully SRT is paying attention and will fix these problems for '14.
     
  11. SADVIPER

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    Awesome reviews guys thank you. Hopefully SRT will fix this both for you and for 14's.
     
  12. plumcrazy

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    tony sure does use his cars. bravo !
     
  13. Nine Ball

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    This is normal for most performance cars. The A/C compressor shuts off during wide open throttle, to increase performance. Then it kicks back on when partial throttle is observed.

    Also normal. The Viper Chief Engineer demonstrated this to me at the factory. That is the safety latch mechanism. If you lift gently on the hatch while pushing the button, it will open in one push. If you aren't lifting on it, it will stop on an intermediate part of the latch. This is to keep the hatch from popping open on accidental button pushes.

    UConnect SRT performance pages are annoying and tend to drag and act very slow to inputs on the screen. My '13 Dodge Ram has it also, also annoying in that vehicle. The UConnect is good about 80% of the time. Sometimes it acts weird. Funny thing about my Ram, it thinks it is an SRT Jeep Cherokee on the screen.

    Tony
     
  14. Killer33

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    Similar issues but only little annoyances. A/C switching from vents to floor, to nothing. I usually have to manually force the A/C on but it usually stays on after. I haven't experienced any real issues with the performance pages although every now and then the radio has a mind of its own and switches from xm to fm? Thought at first it may have been operator error, me hitting the buttons on the steering wheel however; the issue only occurs when I'm traveling at high speeds or when traveling on rough roads. The other issue I continue to experience is when shifting into reverse. The radio switches stations and gets a little funky? It seems to correct itself as soon as I shift to fwd gears. I have the same issue with the back liftgate. I press the remote twice however; I still have to manually press the release button and lift to open. Not sure if this is the same problem you're describing however; once I depress the remote twice to unlatch, the manual button seems to release the hatch. I'm taking her in for my first oil change this week, I'm going to ask the Viper tech to check out a few things and ask if there are any programming updates available. I agree with everything you and Nineball have mentioned, the GenV is an absolute blast to drive... This car draws lots of attention!!
     
  15. Nine Ball

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    Killer33, please read my response just above yours about the lift gate.
     
  16. Killer33

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    Makes perfect sense, figured there were safeties in place for a reason. Thank you for the education... it's the little things that count.
     
  17. ferraritoviper

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    <<Last gripe is with the back liftgate, when I press the remote it pops up but does not unlatches completly, so I have to press the remote and lift the panel at the same time, anybody else has this ?>>

    I had the same quirk with my 09 vert trunk...and had to do the same thing to open it.
     
  18. Jack B

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    I think that is the way it is supposed to be, I don't like thr scheme either.

     
  19. Voice of Reason

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    Is there a chance that the UConnect SRT Performance App needs a solid 3G signal to work correctly? When I visit family in the country where I have terrible cell service I get the -- reading on all the gauges and it locks up. Everywhere else it seems to work fine, just like my phone.
     
  20. SCVIPER

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    Nice write up... I've noticed some black insulation rubbing off on the 'X' bracing under he hood in the center of the X- anyone else? Also some melted plastic or glue oozing out around the exhaust pipes..
     
  21. ViperSmith

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    Any pics? I'd like to look myself
     
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    You should be able to change the display car color but I haven't figured out how to change the GPS Viper car color


     
  23. SilveRT8

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    Thanks for the reply.....It's just annoying that you need both hands to lift the hatch, one to press the button while the other lifts it.
     
  24. Nine Ball

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    If you use the button on the back of the car, you can actually push up on the hatch with just your thumb and click the button at the same time. It doesn't take much lift to make it work.
     
  25. Voice of Reason

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    Tony - One comment about your clutch noise. Mine is completely silent, so if you're getting noise I wonder if there's something going on. How does everyone elses clutch sound?
     
  26. SilveRT8

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    Mine is quiet
     
  27. mikesax

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    The car has a clutch?!
     
  28. 09 Venom

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    mine also silent. Just hit 1,500 miles and car is performing flawless....awesome car!!
     
  29. LouN

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    1000 mi, mine is quiet too.
     
  30. emericr

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    Great review. Nice to know most issues are small.
     

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