How do I get a feel for a Viper before I commit to buying?

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I'm getting close to the point where I can finally purchase a Gen 3 or Gen 4 Viper, and I plan to daily drive it during the summer months. Before pulling the trigger, though, I'm hoping to find a way to try before I buy.
Given the age of these cars, traditional rental options are unlikely, and I doubt most private sellers or dealerships would be open to long test drives. Has anyone found a good strategy for getting meaningful seat time in a Viper before committing?
Any advice or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 

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There are a LOT of WI Viper owners. How far from Milltown, WI are ya. There are true Viper people in that town that will help out with a PPI and give you the in/out on Vipers
 
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Thanks for the reply. Milltown is the other side of the state from me but I am not opposed to traveling if it means making a well informed decision. Do you know if the WI owners are active on this forum?
 
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Buy a Pruis.

Who here bought without even driving it?
I don't understand your helpful reply. Are you saying I should buy a Prius because I want to make sure I am comfortable with my decision before purchasing? Are you saying others here did or did not drive before they purchased? I am confused.

To clarify, the reason for my post asking for insight is because the Viper, my dream car will serve as my secondary daily driver in the warmer months. Meaning, I not only plan to enjoy it on sunny weekends, but also trips to work and around town. I completely grasp the visceral nature of the car so ideally I'd like to give myself the opportunity to experience the reality for myself. The goal is to avoid a "don't meet your heroes" kind of situation.
 

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So far you're going about it the right way. Stick with it, I'm sure someone in the forum can lend a hand. This car is an icon/exotic with a low price of entry which brings in a bunch of folks looking for budget cool factor. They realize pretty quick that Vipers are not refined like a Porsche or even a Corvette which keeps these cars trading hands regularly. If you go into it with a realistic expectation of what a Viper is, i.e. not the modern 200 mph Toyota Carolla that sports cars have become, you'll be happy to meet your hero.
 

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I don't understand your helpful reply. Are you saying I should buy a Prius because I want to make sure I am comfortable with my decision before purchasing? Are you saying others here did or did not drive before they purchased? I am confused.

To clarify, the reason for my post asking for insight is because the Viper, my dream car will serve as my secondary daily driver in the warmer months. Meaning, I not only plan to enjoy it on sunny weekends, but also trips to work and around town. I completely grasp the visceral nature of the car so ideally I'd like to give myself the opportunity to experience the reality for myself. The goal is to avoid a "don't meet your heroes" kind of situation.
So I didn't have the opportunity to drive before I bought my Gen II 10 years ago. the first time I drove a Viper is when I was purchasing mine. If you have the means to do it that would be great because these cars like others have said are very different. Good luck with someone willing to let you drive it, I am sure someone will chime in to help.
 

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I bought my 97 GTS without even physically seeing it (pictures only)…never even sat in one let alone driving one. But I knew I had to have one and it is EXACTLY what I imagined. Love the car.
 

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I bought my Viper without driving it first. I also had to back it out of a narrow, enclosed delivery truck because the driver was too fat to fit into the car, which had its driver's door only half open due to the truck's tight space. That wasn't a pleasant experience, but I managed to unload the Viper without any damage. It takes time to get used to these cars. For me, it is tough to judge distances when backing up, especially near a curb, which is why I ended up with a rim rash. The torque comes on early and can catch you off guard if you're not careful. Drive it carefully at first, then once you're accustomed to the beast, enjoy some spirited driving when it's safe. The seats are adjustable, and the pedals can be moved closer or farther back, so you should be able to set the cockpit to your liking. I wouldn't avoid the car just because I hadn't driven one before. They are not built for comfort, but I've taken long trips in my Gen 2 RT/10 and find it comfortable enough for me. Plenty of leg room and comfy seats. There is no footrest or dead pedal for your left foot, which I find annoying. Go for it!
 

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I daily drove my 04 for the better part of 10 years and it still sees fairly regular duty today. In stock form they are a lot more livable than I think people would think, though the earlier ones are certainly a bit less refined. The general advice I give is that if you drive it like a normal car, it drives like a normal car. The throttle isn't an on/off switch, the steering isn't so twitchy that one wrong move and you're in a tree, etc. That's not to say they aren't very capable cars and equally capable of getting you in trouble if you do something dumb in it. I love driving mine all the time because I like the very direct feedback it gives. Every control feels directly connected to what it's doing and is easy to modulate.

One of the best comparisons I've heard over the years is that the Viper is a lot like a motorcycle. It's a very capable car, but when things go wrong, they can go wrong really fast. Just be responsible and enjoy it. You don't have to set lap records going to the grocery store.
 

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I know some people on here daily their cars, but I wouldn't want to. I've got a Gen 2/4/5 and I would not want to daily any of them. Attracts too much attention and a pain to drive after a while.

It's not for lack of balls - my daily is a heavily modified 04 cobra - but rather the practicality of it.
 

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I know some people on here daily their cars, but I wouldn't want to. I've got a Gen 2/4/5 and I would not want to daily any of them. Attracts too much attention and a pain to drive after a while.

It's not for lack of balls - my daily is a heavily modified 04 cobra - but rather the practicality of it.

That's fair. Your commute and general environment can have a lot to do with that as well. I've been fortunate in that my original commute was basically all empty highway from my moderate sized town to a small town I worked in, so I never had too many people to deal with. My new job and commute have more traffic, but if I leave on time it's usually not that bad. If I lived/worked in a major downtown area of a big city I would probably find it significantly more annoying.
 

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@gramobda that is exactly what I am saying.
I know what you are trying to do but you are confusing an exotic/higher sport car for a 'regular' car and looking at it differently/wrong. How does it drive? Like a stick shift car. No difference then buying a regular daily car. I bought a 'sports' sedan with factory upgraded sports shocks. Never will I buy a sports sedan again or anything sports for daily drive.

My question was both sarcastic and rhetorical about how many bought without driving it. As that is how a large number of people buy an exotic vehicle as you can see by the member's answers.
 

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If you want something bad enough, you just buy it. I bought mine without ever driving a Viper, but I did as much homework as I could to understand the ownership and driving experience from others. Plenty of YouTube commentary out there, some of it being more useful than others. If you find one that you're in love with, then having it in hand and working through any issues is worth more than passing it over and regretting it.
 

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This is a car that you know you want. You will put up with is shortcomings because its a viper. It is not the best at anything. It’s quite crude. It is not a 911. It is unique.
 

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I bought my Viper before I even drove it. I drove a few stickshift cars in my earlier years, but nothing like a Viper. Those were all 4-bangers with 4-speeds. 25 years or so passed since the last time I drove a stick until my first Viper was delivered to me. Like a bicycle, driving a manual was like instinct to me and I forgot how much I missed it. Love driving mine but not a daily driver. Mine still has only 9k miles on it, only to car shows and golf courses or a fine restaurant occasionally. But I have a boner every minute I drive it.

If you really want a Viper, just buy one. If it's for you, you won't regret it. If it's not, sell it and buy something tamer. Be warned though, once you get snake bitten, the sting lasts forever...

Cheers...
 
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Gramobda, I know this isn't what you are asking, beyond driving a friends car or driving the car you intend to purchase, I do not know how you'd get the feel of driving one (realistically). However, I do have some related points. I bought a '08 coupe a few months ago. It was relatively low mileage (16,700 or so), so everything was good with it to drive it anytime. For perspective, I've had several powerful American cars (classic and modern) and drive them hard at times. If you are looking to get one of these to daily drive, you might consider a few things. From my experience folks who have this kind of car, drive it as a 3rd car or part of a collection of hobby cars. I do all the work on my cars (I've restored and modified cars and work on cars as a hobby mechanic for others), but if I had to pay a mechanic, I'd want someone who's familiar with these cars. The parts and maintenance items can be harder to find and more expensive, so regular maintenance is going to be different than your average Honda Civic. I've replaced the pinion seal, the door window regulator, and a few little things since I purchased it (did the work myself, if paying someone it would have been annoying). Another thing to consider is, if you were to be in an accident with it. I could see the cost of even a small accident requiring body repair being much more expensive than an average car. Repair body parts and other parts are hard to come by and will cost. I'd say if you aren't ready to do it yourself (maintenance and repair) you can get into a situation were it would be very costly do drive one of these as your primary car. So, all that being said, if you have the means to do it, it will be fun. If you aren't prepared, I believe you will be unhappy. I wish you the best.
 

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@gramobda Check these guys out. They allowed me to test drive my GEN II before purchasing. Currently they dont have any in Vipers in stock, but they do get several a year.

 

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Definitely drive one first, I would not daily drive one if you get any sort of stop and go traffic lasting more than 10 minutes. It becomes a bit of a chore fast.

That being said, if you're suspension is in good shape and you get a decent riding tire like the Continental Extreme Contact Sport 02s, they are livable.

It gets hot in the cab unless you go with high flow cats and get rid of the cross over pipe.

Keep in mind parts are hard to come by and only getting harder to come by, so you may not want to put all the miles on it just to putt around. I personally save the car for the nice days where I can enjoy it and drive my daily for when I'm just going to be stuck in traffic or behind a slow driver on the back roads.

P.S. You'll almost definitely will need new shocks and tires so factor that in. The factory suspension will leak all the fluid out just from sitting a long time so just because it's low miles won't mean much. Bounce the rear of the car, if it actually bounces then you need shocks. It should just go down and back up and that's it. But if you can bounce it like a pogo the shocks are done and will make for a very sketchy drive.
 
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I really have nothing else to add, other than to say...

I bought mine without driving her and have never looked back. After 8 fantastic years I'm still in love with the car. Can't imagine losing her. Feel like I know her inside and out and she's definitely a keeper.

Do your research, watch the market, target a car and oh yeah.. it'll REALLY help if you can do your own maintenance and repairs.

Good luck
 

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I'll Never forget the first time I got my 2000 Gen 2 after they delivered it & when I got in it I was sitting cockeyed, Lol! & I thought what have I done because I ordered it from the Dealership & have never even sit in one but I LOVE IT, but I LOVE my 2013 even Better!
 

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