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Discussion in 'Viper Detailing Tips & Tricks' started by Tito Tw, May 28, 2009.

  1. Tito Tw

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    As a forum sponsor for this section I’d like to ask your opinion;

    What can we do to make this section better?

    Please share your ideas/opinions.:)
     
  2. dave6666

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    I do follow this stuff a little bit, but find some of the procedures and methods that end up getting described maybe sometimes just short of bizarre in their complexity.

    I like my car to look nice. Wash it, wax it occasionally, pull the wheels and detail the suspension etc every now and then. Not trying to discourage from those that do want the ultimate, but if the instructions for a product are more than 2 to 3 sentences long, then I won't buy your products.

    Moral of story: Simple products, simple instructions, for the simple posers. ;)
     
  3. Newport Viper

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    I thought Vendors weren't allowed to post..... Ahhhggggg so confused....

    I just don't think most Viper owners spend time waxing. I love detailing but, with the other guys/ girls here..... not so much. In fact, most Vipers I see are swirled messes.

    I have tried to promote detailing with Meguiar's to the Socal area with some fun events....but it seems owners and getting less interested as time goes by.

    Most can afford to have someone do it for them... and would rather be at track events.

    If the car no longer continues, then you will probably see an upswing in keeping what they have in perfect condition.

    Time will tell....
     
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  4. ViperTony

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    I'd rather drive it and get it dirty at the track rather than be a slave to my Viper by turning it into a garage queen and spending more time detailing it than driving it. If I wanted a show car Viper, I'd buy a second one and store it. I'm with Dave...simple, simple products and simple procedures. Car wash and spray on wax for me and I'm happy.

    In fact, since you asked Tito, what do you suggest for preventive bug jerky maintenance? Here's my fascia after a track day at Pocono. This was after I already cleaned it after every session except the last one. I've used a competing product called Bug Off but it's more like "Bug On". For the record, I've left my fascia, nay my Viper, dirty in the garage like this since Monday. If the pics bother you, don't look at them:

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    In fact, I may just leave the bug jerky as is so I can watch the paint perfectionist folks' heads fall off this weekend. :D
     
  5. Tito Tw

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    Thank you for the replies, I understand all of your points but at times it's necessary to explain in detail a procedure/product to obtain the best possible results. :)

    Tony, In your case our oxidation and bug remover will remove them, and if you wash and apply some spray wax it will help. The problem is at the speed that the car/bug make contact, if you decide to leave them for a very long period exposed to the sun they will "bake" and start to sink into the paint, making it even more difficult to remove. Sorry for the long answer.:(:)
     
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    Tito I have never washed my Viper since I picked it up at the dealer...I always use quick detailer...I use half a bottle of the spray each week. Where can I find quick detailer in maybe a gallon jug???
     
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    Art 138

    WOW, you guys are serious about driving this thing,:rolaugh: maybe if I had one I too would do the same,lol,we no longer produce a detailer, our spray wax does a great job so we don't see the point of having two similar products, shoot me a PM, we may have a few gallons of the spray wax if you are interested.

    Thank you for asking :)We did a big write up about the performance of spray waxes. Maybe some day I will post that. :)
     
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    Hey tony,, a good coat of Meguire's #1-cleaner #2-(tan bottle) #6 cleaner/polish 3rd step- Gold Class and you can hose that crap right off :usa::usa:
     
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    Support your forum paying sponsors :dunno::dunno:
     
  10. Newport Viper

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    Bugs.....Wet a Bounce dryer sheet, it disovles the bugs parts. No paint damage to worry about. Anyone who has ever lived in Florida love bug season knows this trick!
     
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    Thanks for sharing that tip :2tu:
     
  12. ViperTony

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    Newport, yes I recall this tip but I don't understand how it doesn't create swirl marks. The dryer sheets are not plush at all, like some of the plush microfiber towels. When hardened bug guts get caught up in the fibers of the dryer sheet won't that lead to swirls? Anyway, for cleaning I will try it. But I was looking for something like an impenetrable coating. Ah well...its not a big deal, it just seems like even with fresh coatings of wax these bugs have become stickier. :)
     
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    It's the chemical in the sheet that does the work. Use a light hand and wipe off the guts with micro fiber
     
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    Thanks, I'm going to Stop & Shop this afternoon to pick up some non-dyed, non-perfumed sheets and will try this technique.
     
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    or go with this... looks like fun

    Shield
     
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    Hi Tito,

    With a black Viper, I always seem to have a problem with swirls marks. I've been using Scratch X, which works reasonably well. I like it because I can use it by hand on small areas. How does your Swirl remover compare? Can it also be used by hand (as opposed to a random orbiter which can lead to all kinds of misuse issues)? If I can, I would like to begin using your products.

    Thanks.
     
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    That's what I use, Tony. The fragrance-free/non-dye Bounce sheets...VERY VERY WET!!!!! THEN use a detail spray to wipe away the residue afterwards...works wonders! (ESpecially on the bugs!) :2tu: ~juli
     
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    Hi Tito~
    Anything to make detail spraying easier! We also do not wash our car...never have any of our Vipers. BUT, we do wax twice a year. We use Gliptone now for detail spray. Would like to compare your detail spray with theirs...you being a site sponsor, we'd rather buy from YOU!
    ~juli
     
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    Aww, c'mon Juli! You guys just get a new car every year right?
     
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    Damn Dave...<smiling> you are a major website PIA...but you DO kill me :rolaugh:. Poor Juli.
     
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    Tony , Just yesterday I was going to take some photos of our bug removal in action to share with you unfortunately I was not able to capture a good photo to illustrate the results, however if you like to give it a try I be more than happy to send one your way free of charge.

    CitySnake
    , Swirl marks come from many reasons, the action and the heat generated from the machine/pad is hard to duplicate by hand, If you want to try it by hand and be the judge I extend the same offer I did to Tony.

    Mike & Juli
    , Our Spray Wax offers a Great temporary solution between washes, and I'd be more than happy to extend the same offer I did to Tony and CitySnake.

    I have offered our products FREE of charge to MANY forum members and one after one they have rejected the offer, We try our best to earn everyone's trust and we have tried very hard to be a good forum sponsor, sharing the little that we know. I'm not sure why so many of you have close the doors on us, forget about sales, all we want is to be part of the forum.

    Sorry I got a little off subject.
     
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    We'd love to take you up on your offer...pm sent to ya, thank you most kindly~! ~juli
     
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    I can't speak for anyone other than myself Tito, but it does seem like folks take their tuners and detailing products quite to heart. I can see it with tuners...but not so much with inanimate objects. I tend to use Griots products, but that's mainly because (as other have mentioned) they are easy to use. I'd change in a second, especially 1) if it's a good product, 2) the product has a rep that's a site sponsor and 3) the rep make himself/herself readily available for questions and suggestions. I'm just not a "detailing kind of owner". I drive a LOT and the car gets dirty...a LOT.

    Sorry that you feel "rejected" as I for one, am happy you're hear to answer questions. It's great to have such an attentive sponsor! :2tu:

    I've PM'd you my address and I'll be happy to try your swirl mark remover and report back. Hard to beat a free product! Thanks Tito! :headbang:
     
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    Nice way to capture that thought City...

    My position is not so much that the car gets really really dirty constantly, but that doing just average paint maintenance at a fraction of the time involved with extreme maintenance, still results in a decent looking car.

    So watcha got in a soap Tito? Use a bit of that, as I wash every week or so (yes I've determined the Viper does NOT get ruined by water). And like City, have been using Griot's products.
     
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    Tito...I've found that detailing is a religion for many folks. Trying to ween them off of their specific detailing products is like trying to ween men away from their favorite boxers. It's just not going to be easy. :) I, for one, will take you up on your offer for your bug removal product. I feel I've tried everything out there and have nothing to lose. Who knows, it just might be the ticket. I'm always open to new products especially from folks like yourself that make themselves available to answer questions. So, I'll PM you about the bug remover and we'll see where it goes from there.
     
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    I had PM'd Tito, and we had a nice chat. I told him that we Viper people are pretty particular about what we use on our cars. He laughed and said YEP, he noted that! He asked a good question: HOW was I going to compare the detail/wax detail sprays? I said we'd use HIS product on another vehicle, see how it worked. Certainly we're open to new products, and to use a site sponsor is a HUGE PLUS in my book too. We await the results!! I told him I'd certainly post up a glowing review if indeed that is the case. We also appreciate the free sample...can't go wrong there! ~juli
     
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    Hello Guys, thank you for your responses, sharing a "little of your love" is not that much to ask :D:)

    CitySnake
    I fully understand your point: It has been a long and lonely road but the future is always bright for those of us that won’t give up.

    Few things that most people don't know about us
    1- We ship ALL of our orders the same day.
    2- Every package goes out Priority shipping at no extra cost to the customer.
    3- Every Package goes out with an FREE promotional item and I'm not talking junk, if you order a wax and prewax we figured that a car shampoo will be a good addition.

    We don't claim to have the BEST product out there, that doesn't exist period, take for example some of those products that some people "claim" to be the BEST, after you have learn the complicated steps, take away the "aid" of another product to make that product good, now what do you have? But that’s another story.

    If we provide a good service with a good product we feel that there’s a place for us in the marketplace.

    dave6666

    I'm afraid to replay because it will be longer than a simple sentence :rolaugh::crazy2:

    Our car shampoo is one of our BEST-sellers; 1/4oz per 3 gallons of water is all you need. What makes our shampoo much better is the lubricant that has on it. BUT like any other products you have to be the judge, if you want to give it a try I extend the same offer as I did to all others.

    As you can see I'm a bad businessperson, either our products are that bad that we can afford to give them away OR we are that confident on how they perform.:drive::)

    ViperTony Send me your address I already know the outcome.;)

    Thank you Guys :headbang::2tu::drive:
     
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    Anybody that can spell and punctuate my name correctly has to be worthy of something! Little d, and four sixes. Duh!

    I'll PM you my address for the freebie. Then report back on the goods. Not that I'm on the forum much. :lmao:
     
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    Tito: Just wanted to thank you for your prompt delivery of the samples you sent...arrived today~!
    I will get back to you as soon as we're able to use the products and see the results. ~juli
     
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    Tito, thank you very kindly for the FULL BOTTLE of detail wax spray I received today. We have already used it (between work here and there, lol)...and it DOES work very very well. We'll see how it does when time to get bugs/grit off it, but yes, it's shiny & smooooooooth. Looks like a winner so far~! Thank You. ~juli
     

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