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  1. Tom and Vipers

    Tom and Vipers Enthusiast

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    How is that possible?
     
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    ViperJeff VCA Legacy Member - UT/AZ Staff Member

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    I can think of a number of reasons, however, non of them are a remotely good excuse
     
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    Well, it surely can't be people quit modding them...

    I don't understand why AEM dropped the V1 P&P Viper ECU given the horrible difficulties of programming JTEC.
     
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    Wish I had the technical background to contribute
     
  5. MoparMap

    MoparMap VCA National President

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    I think a lot of these questions just moved to the generation forums instead of the tuning specific ones. That could explain why there isn't much action going on in these sections. As for the AEM issue, my guess would be just a lack of sales. They only built ~30,000 Vipers, and only so many of them used the JTEC that the P&P would be a swap for. Pretty small market to begin with, so if they aren't selling there's no reason to keep making them. The universal ECUs are basically the same thing from a hardware standpoint to my knowledge, they would just require a harness adapter and a little more tuning knowledge as it likely wouldn't come with a preloaded map.
     
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    Amazingly, the vast portion of JTEC info is on Jeep forums! Jeep guys are a different class - they just don't have the wealth that people who bot new Vipers have. So they try to do everything themselves. JTEC woes on those forums are very depressing. There was some mention that only the 1996 GTS PCM was "unencripted."
     
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    MoparMap VCA National President

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    Hmm, I never thought about that. I guess it was a shared controller to some degree. I have to imagine there was some difference between the Viper version and others just based on what all it needed to control, but I guess the underlying configuration would probably be pretty similar. That would make it a much larger market.
     
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    Bonkers VCA Venom Member - Northeast

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    I hate to sound like a beating drum, but i think
    alot of the technical stuff moved to the FB page
    simply because, under-the-hood, guys tend to ask
    questions they need answered immediately and the
    site tends to take hours, if not days to generate
    a response.

    Its funny, the old guy in me remembers back when
    you had an issue, you could come here and get a
    dozen detailed solutions in 3-4 days flat. It was
    like lightning... now you can get all the bad information
    you can handle quicker than getting the old 36.6k
    warmed up...
     
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    FaceBook? it never occurred to me. I imagine there are many groups.
     
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    Bonkers VCA Venom Member - Northeast

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    There is only one VCA group on FB, but ive
    seen at least 12 other viper related groups and
    im sure there are more. The downside is that
    they are quick to segregate themselves down
    into a one-track mind mentality (im part of three
    viper truck groups because there are people who
    dont like a few people in Group 1 so they started
    a Group 2, and the disliked people in Group 1
    started Group 3 to talk about what they think is
    happening in Group 2.) Its very highschoolish,
    but sadly is pretty much whats happening here
    too... so...
     

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