Anyone have Oil Filters??

[Chopper911]

I know this has been beat to death... but it is time for an oil change on the Gen 1 and I would prefer to stick with the 5281090AB filter. Unfortunately, I am more likely to find a unicorn. Does anyone have an extra or two you want to part with.

If you couldn't get this one, what is everyone using? I have read the forum posts but still not sure what is the best option. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

 

[Steve-Indy]

Sorry that I can't help with the filter you mentioned.

The MOPAR Oil Filter NOW recommended is Viper Specific for 1992 thru 2006 Vipers...05037836AB. (note "AB" and NOT "AA").

 

[daveg]

......what is the best option. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

MOBIL M1204A Extended Performance
OR
WIX 51085XP XP Extreme Duty

 

[Viper Specialty]

Mobil 1 M1-204. [M1-210 for 2008+]

Never was impressed with the Mopar filters.

 

[efnfast]

Mobil 1 M1-204. [M1-210 for 2008+]

Never was impressed with the Mopar filters.

The Mopar one says 'Viper' on it, therefore it has to be superior by default

 

[JRSViperRT]

Mobil 1 M1-204. [M1-210 for 2008+]

Never was impressed with the Mopar filters.

Would you recommend the MOBIL M1204A Extended Performance for gen 1?

 

[Beltfed]

MOBIL M1204A Extended Performance
OR
WIX 51085XP XP Extreme Duty

Yep. I use the Wix 51085XP 20W-50 GP1 oil

 

[kwik40]

Would the gen 2 use the same as a gen 1? If so, I have about 6 or so that were for my 1998 GTS which I sold for a gen 5.I would have to move some garage stuff to get the number off the box if needed.

 

[Steve-Indy]

Gen I, Gen II, and Gen III Vipers use the same size oil filter.

 

[daveg]

Would you recommend the MOBIL M1204A Extended Performance for gen 1?

M1204A has roughly the same By-Pass Pressure Valve rating as the Viper Filter.

 

[kwik40]

The ones I have are Mopar #05281090.

 

[jun76]

I have a viper filter new in the box.mopar part #MO-836

 

[jun76]

Its actually 05037836AB just pulled it out the box and it says viper on it.

 

[efnfast]

I wonder if Mopar filters are becoming NLA. I tried to order filters for my Vipers and was told by multiple dealers
5037836 (gen2) - NLA
5038041 (gen 4/5) - 45-60 day lead time

I bought the last of Rock Auto's supply of Gen2 filters.

Hopefully the dealerships are wrong about it being NLA and this is a temporary supply chain issue as it would be highly disappointing if my oil filter no longer said 'Viper' on it to demonstrate its superiority

 

[99RT10GTS]

I have both the 36AB and the 41AA for sale. Message me if you need one

 

[ELW98]

I picked up 2 at my local dealer today! ordered week and one half ago...

 

[Bonkers]

Mobil 1 M1-204. [M1-210 for 2008+]

Never was impressed with the Mopar filters.

Higher Filtration, approprate bypass valve pressure, cool logo,
what exactly fails to meet your standards, especially compared
to the M1?

 

[Viper Specialty]

Higher Filtration, approprate bypass valve pressure, cool logo,
what exactly fails to meet your standards, especially compared
to the M1?

Take one of those tissue paper with an ill-fitting anti-drainback valve filters apart... and you'll see lol

 

[Bonkers]

Take one of those tissue paper with an ill-fitting anti-drainback valve filters apart... and you'll see lol

Again, confused... Im not talking about the Mobil Filter
which i know uses cellulose [tissue] paper and a 90psi tin valve.
Im talking about the Viper Filters which use Synthetic
by-weave and stainless steel 110psi valve. I know how crappy
both Mobil and Wix can sometimes get, ive been fighting
this fight here for 20+ years Dan, you should know that,
im just disappointed as to why you feel this way. Statistically
i know nothing in manufacturing is 100% but (other than
that lab guy on youtube who was suspiciously sponsored
by Fram,) i have yet to personally see a sub-par Viper
Filter, or any kind of fiber failure... especially when compared
to Mobil, Wix, and *cough* Fram...

 

[Viper Specialty]

Again, confused... Im not talking about the Mobil Filter
which i know uses cellulose [tissue] paper and a 90psi tin valve.
Im talking about the Viper Filters which use Synthetic
by-weave and stainless steel 110psi valve. I know how crappy
both Mobil and Wix can sometimes get, ive been fighting
this fight here for 20+ years Dan, you should know that,
im just disappointed as to why you feel this way. Statistically
i know nothing in manufacturing is 100% but (other than
that lab guy on youtube who was suspiciously sponsored
by Fram,) i have yet to personally see a sub-par Viper
Filter, or any kind of fiber failure... especially when compared
to Mobil, Wix, and *cough* Fram...

Your credibility slipped a bit when you claimed the M1 filters use anything but a synthetic media or stainless components. The cases on the Viper filters are nowhere near as stout as the M1 filters.

You can be as disappointed as you want to be. I have seen the insides if the Viper filters with my own eyes, and the junk that was in them. The ones I have pulled apart had horrible fitting anti-drainback valves that didnt seal and were so oversized that they were able to fall to the side out of alignment, and I have seen two that had seam leaks on race engines back when I was handling a number of those. I have had the drain back issues pop up on my own car, so I won't run them based on that alone. Could they have been revised since then? Sure, but I dont give second chances on mundane critical components.

Know how many M1 filter issues I have had or seen? Zero.

You can do as you wish with your own car, makes no difference to me one way or the other.

 

[99RT10GTS]

Both you two amateurs need to get it right. The only filter to use is Fram, quality is job 1!!!


FRAM! FRAM!! FRAM!!!

 

[Goggles Pizano]

Filters and dip sticks are tearing this forum apart.

 

[Steve M]

I wonder if Mopar filters are becoming NLA. I tried to order filters for my Vipers and was told by multiple dealers
5037836 (gen2) - NLA
5038041 (gen 4/5) - 45-60 day lead time

I bought the last of Rock Auto's supply of Gen2 filters.

Hopefully the dealerships are wrong about it being NLA and this is a temporary supply chain issue as it would be highly disappointing if my oil filter no longer said 'Viper' on it to demonstrate its superiority

On the Gen 4 side of things, I'd highly doubt it - if my memory serves, that filter is also used in all of the Hellcat motors, and there's a ton of those still rolling around.

 

[99RT10GTS]

I have both 36AB and 41AA for sale, so...........

 

[Goggles Pizano]

I have both 36AB and 41AA for sale, so...........

Trade you for Fram and a taco.

 

[99RT10GTS]

I would trade my center nut for a Fram!!!

 

[doctormosfet]

So just stuff a coffee filter in a FRAM and you're good to go, right?

 

[daveg]

Just received 2 M1 Filters from RockAuto.
They definitely have some weight to them!