Anyone have Oil Filters??

[efnfast]

Why are you sad, nothing wrong with an M1 Filter at all. Personally, I probably will never buy a Viper Filter again.

It doesn't say Viper on it though

 

[daveg]

It doesn't say Viper on it though

Get a Sharpie.

 

[Bonkers]

I am sad.

Dont be. M1 and Wix XP filters are perfectly acceptable
in a pinch. Was the OEM a 05037836AB or 05037836AC
model? Ive been trying to contact Wix but they have not
replied - seems like the new AC version is a significant
downgrade over the AA and AB parts.

Whats interesting is that the Hemi SRT crowd as moved
away from OEM into the Viper Filters which is why there
has been a sudden heavy run on them. I think Wix is
trying to pull a fast one and lower the quality of the AB to
Hemi standards with the AC.

I am a devout fan of Viper Filters so this new AC replacement
has my pumpkin frosted over...

 

[Viper Swag]

WIX 51085XP XP Extreme Duty is definitely the way to go if you can't find Viper OEM

 

[Bill W]

WIX 51085XP XP Extreme Duty is definitely the way to go if you can't find Viper OEM

Did you mean WIX 51085XP Extended Performance, not Extreme Duty?

 

[Viper Swag]

Did you mean WIX 51085XP Extended Performance, not Extreme Duty?

Yes Extreme Performance

 

[Steve-Indy]

The boxes for the WIX 51085XP say "Extended Performance"

 

[Goggles Pizano]

@Bill W and @Viper Swag why did you guys hi jack the thread and start talking about boner pills?

Edit: @Steve-Indy included as I was typing too now.

 

[Viper Swag]

Bottomline Wix XP is the go to filter thanks to those who won their spelling bees to correct our grammar

 

[efnfast]

fyi Rock Auto has Mopar filters listed as back in stock now, so I guess they got back to producing them

 

[Steve-Indy]

Beware...all that is painted white MAY NOT be what you think it is. Things have changed...maybe same for the aforementioned WIX.

 

[Bonkers]

fyi Rock Auto has Mopar filters listed as back in
stock now, so I guess they got back to producing
them

Gotta back Steve on this one - since the SRT8
crowd has jumped on the Viper Filter bandwagon
there has been ALOT of counterfeits circulating on
the mass-retail sites. Wix did just make a run on
the real filters about a month ago - several of my
sources have gotten shipments in recently, but i
would stick with the Viper Vendors on these right
now. A few extra bucks is worth the hassle.

 

[Goggles Pizano]

@Bonkers just because they are Viper Vendors does not really meaning anything.

 

[Steve-Indy]

As near as I can tell, there have been many changes in the ownership of oil filter manufacturers...with some "trickle down" effects at the end product level that are less than desirable in my opinion.

 

[Bonkers]

just because they are Viper Vendors does not really
meaning anything.

It absolutely does. Guys like Tator, JonB, Sawyer,
Savakinas, and Havik will all... at the VERY least
will physically look at the filters before they ship
them out. There is a good chance that the retailers
will have them shipped directly to you through
a network of people they dont even talk to.

Now if the manufacturer (Wix) is making cheap
filters there is nothing that can be done, but
avoiding the counterfeits starts with avoiding the
marketplaces that dont care if they exist or not...

 

[efnfast]

It absolutely does. Guys like Tator, JonB, Sawyer,
Savakinas, and Havik will all... at the VERY least
will physically look at the filters before they ship
them out. There is a good chance that the retailers
will have them shipped directly to you through
a network of people they dont even talk to.

Now if the manufacturer (Wix) is making cheap
filters there is nothing that can be done, but
avoiding the counterfeits starts with avoiding the
marketplaces that dont care if they exist or not...

No they won't - they'll just stick them in their inventory like every other vendor.

Case in point - I bought a new radiator from a very well known Viper vendor. As a point of practice I always rinse out radiators. This ****** started puking out chunks of metal when I ran him under the faucet. Not little curly q's or dots/specs, but fricken solid pieces of metal (which oddly enough were all triangle shaped so I can't figure out *** they could be).

Anyways, point being, if the magic Viper vendors don't take 2 minutes to rinse out radiators they stock to make sure they're good to go for customers, because I imagine the majority of people just slap the parts on and don't ensure full cleaning, they arn't going to open up piles of boxes of oil filters to inspect.

 

[Old School]

If you want the best chance of getting a real Mopar filter, just go to the dealer.

 

[Goggles Pizano]

Posted by Tom Sessions
https://www.facebook.com/groups/4viperclub/posts/10163569536302955/

 

[Bonkers]

Yeah, both Chrysler and Wix are playing the
"talk to the other guy" game and will not respond
directly to my questions on this issue. Wix is
claiming they are building the new filters to Chrysler
"recommendations" and Chrysler is saying there
has been no changes to the filter at all. Still
waiting to hear back from Mobil.

 

[Damn Yankee]

So I'm going to try to take a load off for you, stop. There is absolutely no issues in getting an oil filter for a Viper Gen 2. There does seem to be a huge psychological barrier for some people in recognizing that the vast majority of filters mentioned in this thread will do an excellent job. Just buy a case of the mobile one oil filters for your year and you're done. I just bought a case at Walmart on sale on line and paid six bucks a filter for mobile ones best. Now it's true while being a magnificent filter it doesn't say viper on it but unless you're running somebody over who can remain alive long enough to find the oil filter and hopefully have it rotated into a position that they'll be able to see the picture, it doesn't matter. If you do need something to worry about, the rocker in your number four cylinder? That right there, now that's a problem....

 

[daveg]

Have 3 Mobil 1 filters in my cabinet. Roughly the same bypass valve pressure (which is what everyone was concerned about)
We trust Mobil 1 Oil but not their filter?

Not going to pay ridiculous money for a filter that says Viper on it. Someone on here prove the Mobil filter is not worthy and I will gladly switch back to the Viper filter!

 

[Bonkers]

We trust Mobil 1 Oil but not their filter?

Thats interesting because up until recently Mobil did not
recommend their filters for the Viper because of the Valve
Pressure being too low. It only changed about five years
ago. I am waiting for them to get back with me on
confirmation but they will not put into writing the M1-204
is a safe filter for the Viper V10. They will for the Magnum
V10 though. When the manufacture isnt confident , why
should i be?

Also the reason PVO didnt just use Mobil to begin with is
because they (the ones who designed the Motor) didnt feel
it was up to standard and Mobil would not make a custom
for Dodge - which is why they went to Wix in the first place.

 

[daveg]

Thats interesting because up until recently Mobil did not
recommend their filters for the Viper because of the Valve
Pressure being too low. It only changed about five years
ago. I am waiting for them to get back with me on
confirmation but they will not put into writing the M1-204
is a safe filter for the Viper V10. They will for the Magnum
V10 though. When the manufacture isnt confident , why
should i be?

Also the reason PVO didnt just use Mobil to begin with is
because they (the ones who designed the Motor) didnt feel
it was up to standard and Mobil would not make a custom
for Dodge - which is why they went to Wix in the first place.

So it wasn't until recently I switched over. I did some research and the pressure is near identical.
I also saw Dan Promoted the Mobil Filter. From what he stated, he cut open a Viper filter and called it Junk.

PS, I have Run Wix in the past since I exclusively run WIX in all my other cars.